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ShadeRaven
May 4th, 2025, 14:32
We had a little retro weekend game night on FG using the 2E AD&D rules and I wanted to know what the ruleset (and rules) are being used as intended.

I noticed that for most creatures, the size field has no impact. A Large Ogre has the same token size as a Tiny Rat (which is the same size as a player token). I am used to (from other RPGs) seeing that field increase the size of the token when they are added to the map from the CT. I know gridding and such wasn't really a thing in AD&D, so it's quite possible that there's no rules for this so it's working as intended.

For now, if I want creatures to appear to be larger or smaller than the typical medium/humanoid sized token, then I manually adjust the creatures' token scale, but I was curious if that's how it is supposed to be (or maybe if someone has created an extension that implements token scaling to size).

Thanks for any insights/info!
bayne7400
May 4th, 2025, 16:22
Yeah the size is not being set properly when you add it to the CT. So you are correct it is a bug.
bayne7400
May 4th, 2025, 19:34
Actually it looks like Large is staying at 5 size but Huge and Giant is updating.
Moon Wizard
May 5th, 2025, 00:41
Per discusion on Discord, this appears to be the correct behaviors for 2E.

Regards,
JPG
ShadeRaven
May 5th, 2025, 18:08
I wondered.... just makes things a little crowded when you get 17 giant rats all the size of humans in a small room :P

Definitely some places where adjusting for visual accuracy trumps whatever the "default" is. The impact of seeing very big or very small tokens can be quite dramatic when setting a scene.
celestian
May 5th, 2025, 20:31
Actually it looks like Large is staying at 5 size but Huge and Giant is updating.

Moon is correct, this is the expected behavior for 2E. Huge+ sizes get token size adjustments. You can tweak it yourself by adding TOKEN_SIZE: ## to the "size" field of a npc and it should adjust it to that. So if you want ogres to be 10, you can apply it there. Understand this value needs to be set on the NPC before it's added to the CT.
ShadeRaven
May 7th, 2025, 16:02
Moon is correct, this is the expected behavior for 2E. Huge+ sizes get token size adjustments. You can tweak it yourself by adding TOKEN_SIZE: ## to the "size" field of a npc and it should adjust it to that. So if you want ogres to be 10, you can apply it there. Understand this value needs to be set on the NPC before it's added to the CT.The Token size thing is very cool! But I did notice that it doesn't seem to work when applying creatures to the CT from an Encounter.
celestian
May 7th, 2025, 19:30
The Token size thing is very cool! But I did notice that it doesn't seem to work when applying creatures to the CT from an Encounter.

Hum, it should be the same.. I'll have to check and see if something changed in a recent update on that.

Found the issue, there was some tech added a while back I never noticed that changed how this worked. I've updated it and testing locally works as expected. I'll push it out for release.

https://i.imgur.com/10cfmEm.gif
ShadeRaven
May 7th, 2025, 23:52
Hum, it should be the same.. I'll have to check and see if something changed in a recent update on that.

Found the issue, there was some tech added a while back I never noticed that changed how this worked. I've updated it and testing locally works as expected. I'll push it out for release.
Outstanding!
celestian
May 14th, 2025, 17:17
2E Ruleset (2E Compatible)
[Fixed] Encounter placement honors size values


This should work if you've updated now.