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hammer58
February 22nd, 2025, 17:42
Ok This seems to be a massive problem to me. My group has a lot of difficulty learning to use FG.
There are a lot of help vids on youtube which we have used.
However recently I started watching other DM's run games and post them on youtube just to see if it is just us.
And nope. Even other players with more than 50 hours of experience using FG are still having LOTS of issues using it.
Now I am being honest here, when we run the game pen and paper it goes faster than using FG.
Play stops continuously when we encounter something that FG is supposed to do and no one can figure it out then we end up doing it manually
then have to go back into the character sheets and see what the game did and adjust them to reflect the manual rolls we did.
Yes it does a few nice things. However none of the nice things are even available to us using temple of elemental evil mod and 2e rules sets.
I watch people converting this to 5E rules and they still have enormous issues. We also have a few characters that FG has no level progression tables for in the 2E rule set.
Like Monks and barbarians. So even attempting to use the experience drag and drop does not work. About the only functions that do work is having a map and item inventory.
And a way to track items that are not identified. And characters weight and movement range based on weight. The combat is very iffy. Line of sight not available. And tracking conditions on toons is more difficult than pen and paper.

There needs to be a better way. It has to work better more effective or it will end up losing all but a few die hards.

superteddy57
February 22nd, 2025, 19:19
MOD: You placed it in the forge and that is dedicated to the forge products.

LordEntrails
February 22nd, 2025, 19:58
Sorry your table is having problems. A few generic suggestions:
- Don't use any extensions. Not until you are all proficient with FG.
- Take some free classes at FG Academy, they have GM and player ones for various rulesets.
- Start with the basics, don't try to do everything at once.
- Forget any VTT paradigm that you may already know. Don't expect FG to behave like another program, learn how it "thinks".
- See if anyone can help out real-time via Discord with specific questions.
- Ask specific questions, and provide screen shots of your setup.

hammer58
February 22nd, 2025, 21:03
Sorry your table is having problems. A few generic suggestions:
- Don't use any extensions. Not until you are all proficient with FG.
- Take some free classes at FG Academy, they have GM and player ones for various rulesets.
- Start with the basics, don't try to do everything at once.
- Forget any VTT paradigm that you may already know. Don't expect FG to behave like another program, learn how it "thinks".
- See if anyone can help out real-time via Discord with specific questions.
- Ask specific questions, and provide screen shots of your setup.

Ok add the Monk class and the Barbarian class to the 2E rule set. Start with that. Because just using FGU for record keeping of our characters does not function.
The basic part. And no do not teach me how to do it myself. That is not going to happen. I want it to work out of the box.

LordEntrails
February 22nd, 2025, 21:26
Ok add the Monk class and the Barbarian class to the 2E rule set. Start with that. Because just using FGU for record keeping of our characters does not function.
The basic part. And no do not teach me how to do it myself. That is not going to happen. I want it to work out of the box.
Which 2E ruleset? D&D, PF, Advance Fighting, or one of the other community rulesets?
I don't use any of those rulesets so I can't give you specifics for that. But here are the steps for D&D 5E using drag and drop since almost ever ruleset allows for drag and drop classes.



Load the correct books, i.e. PHB etc
Create new Character
Give them a name (Bob)
Given them ability scores via which ever method you are using
Give them a background via drag and drop (gladiator), select options if presented
Give them a species/race via drag and drop (human), select racial options
Drag Monk to character sheet, select options
Drag Barbarian to character sheet, select options
Review the Abilities tab for items that you need to make selections on or update for your choices.

Your second level character now looks like this;
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So where are you stumbling? What problems is your table having with something like this?

hammer58
February 22nd, 2025, 21:36
Which 2E ruleset? D&D, PF, Advance Fighting, or one of the other community rulesets?
I don't use any of those rulesets so I can't give you specifics for that. But here are the steps for D&D 5E using drag and drop since almost ever ruleset allows for drag and drop classes.



Load the correct books, i.e. PHB etc
Create new Character
Give them a name (Bob)
Given them ability scores via which ever method you are using
Give them a background via drag and drop (gladiator), select options if presented
Give them a species/race via drag and drop (human), select racial options
Drag Monk to character sheet, select options
Drag Barbarian to character sheet, select options
Review the Abilities tab for items that you need to make selections on or update for your choices.

Your second level character now looks like this;
6357463575

So where are you stumbling? What problems is your table having with something like this?

AD&D 2E rule set. See this book: <links to pirate sites removed> go to page 30 bottom of the page Monk. Add that to FGU please.

Then this book: <links to pirate sites removed> page 18 Barbarian. add that to FGU please.

Neither of those exist in FGU right now.

LordEntrails
February 22nd, 2025, 21:59
AD&D 2E rule set. See this book: <removed> go to page 30 bottom of the page Monk. Add that to FGU please.

Then this book: <removed> page 18 Barbarian. add that to FGU please.
No I'm not going to add content to FG for you and then illegally distribute it by giving it to you. Both of those are copyrighted works and distribution of them is illegal without a license to do so.

If you don't want to enter the information yourself (which you can do) then you should buy the official FG conversions here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/product.php?id=WOTC2EPHB. Unearthed Arcana has not been converted to FG so you will have to do that one yourself if you still want to use that variant of the class. You could also consider this version of the Barbarian; D&D Classics: The Complete Barbarian's Handbook for Fantasy Grounds (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/product.php?id=WOTC2E2148)

There is a thread on tips and suggestions for AD&D 2E here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?49036-AD-amp-D-2E-Ruleset-Tips
Here you can find info on conversions and how they get done etc; Future AD&D conversions (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?65716-Future-AD-amp-D-conversions)
Two of the best places to ask questions specific to the AD&D 2E ruleset is here: Classic D&D (1E/2E, AD&D, OSRIC) (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?73-Classic-D-amp-D-(1E-2E-AD-amp-D-OSRIC)) and here: https://discord.gg/SPHQeuUh
If you haven't found him already, Mike does a lot of AD&D tutorials on YT. Though I think most of them are pretty old so the UI will have been updated some; https://www.youtube.com/@ADnDMike

hammer58
February 22nd, 2025, 22:02
No I'm not going to add content to FG for you and then illegally distribute it by giving it to you. Both of those are copyrighted works and distribution of them is illegal without a license to do so.

If you don't want to enter the information yourself (which you can do) then you should buy the official FG conversions here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/product.php?id=WOTC2EPHB. Unearthed Arcana has not been converted to FG so you will have to do that one yourself if you still want to use that variant of the class. You could also consider this version of the Barbarian; D&D Classics: The Complete Barbarian's Handbook for Fantasy Grounds (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/product.php?id=WOTC2E2148)

There is a thread on tips and suggestions for AD&D 2E here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?49036-AD-amp-D-2E-Ruleset-Tips
Here you can find info on conversions and how they get done etc; Future AD&D conversions (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?65716-Future-AD-amp-D-conversions)
Two of the best places to ask questions specific to the AD&D 2E ruleset is here: Classic D&D (1E/2E, AD&D, OSRIC) (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?73-Classic-D-amp-D-(1E-2E-AD-amp-D-OSRIC)) and here: https://discord.gg/SPHQeuUh
If you haven't found him already, Mike does a lot of AD&D tutorials on YT. Though I think most of them are pretty old so the UI will have been updated some; https://www.youtube.com/@ADnDMike

Then we are done here. FGU will not support the game my group is playing. Thank You for telling me. I will take this info and share it with others like me.

LordEntrails
February 22nd, 2025, 22:04
Then we are done here. FGU will not support the game my group is playing. Thank You for telling me. I will take this info and share it with others like me.
lol, Totally wrong take-away from what I shared. There are many people playing AD&D via FG. But you obviously don't want to be helped.
Anyway, the FG Store has a 30 day refund policy so you can return any of your purchases in that time frame if you are unhappy with the product.

hammer58
February 22nd, 2025, 22:19
lol, Totally wrong take-away from what I shared. There are many people playing AD&D via FG. But you obviously don't want to be helped.
Anyway, the FG Store has a 30 day refund policy so you can return any of your purchases in that time frame if you are unhappy with the product.


I do not care what your take on it is. I am the customer. I buy what works. Not a product that I have to spend weeks on to make it work. I would not buy a car that required a weeks worth of work to finish it either.

LordEntrails
February 22nd, 2025, 23:24
I do not care what your take on it is. I am the customer. I buy what works. Not a product that I have to spend weeks on to make it work. I would not buy a car that required a weeks worth of work to finish it either.
Then feel free to return it and leave our community.
p.s. I am a customer too. I don't work for SmiteWorks nor do I represent them.

Laerun
February 23rd, 2025, 04:48
Ok This seems to be a massive problem to me. My group has a lot of difficulty learning to use FG.
There are a lot of help vids on youtube which we have used.
However recently I started watching other DM's run games and post them on youtube just to see if it is just us.
And nope. Even other players with more than 50 hours of experience using FG are still having LOTS of issues using it.
Now I am being honest here, when we run the game pen and paper it goes faster than using FG.
Play stops continuously when we encounter something that FG is supposed to do and no one can figure it out then we end up doing it manually
then have to go back into the character sheets and see what the game did and adjust them to reflect the manual rolls we did.
Yes it does a few nice things. However none of the nice things are even available to us using temple of elemental evil mod and 2e rules sets.
I watch people converting this to 5E rules and they still have enormous issues. We also have a few characters that FG has no level progression tables for in the 2E rule set.
Like Monks and barbarians. So even attempting to use the experience drag and drop does not work. About the only functions that do work is having a map and item inventory.
And a way to track items that are not identified. And characters weight and movement range based on weight. The combat is very iffy. Line of sight not available. And tracking conditions on toons is more difficult than pen and paper.

There needs to be a better way. It has to work better more effective or it will end up losing all but a few die hards.

Your frustration is not unheard. This might occur with other VTTs too, not just Fantasy Grounds, however, having officially licensed content is sometimes better than not. If pen and paper is your preferred method of play over a virtual table top, that is okay too. Some people just play through discord and a dice cam. Everyone has a different experience using Fantasy Grounds, depending on the rule set, the time available, and the needs or use cases. Good luck and happy gaming with however you choose or settle upon. There are many solutions out there, but it depends on what is available to play and how much time you have.

Morenu
February 23rd, 2025, 05:23
Wow... I wouldn't expect a $50 car to fit my wildest dreams either.

Just like playing TT (and taking piracy off the table), someone has to own the books you need to play. in the case of FG, the DM is the only one that has to have the books, either purchased or put in by hand. D&D TT doesn't just work out of the box either. you buy the PHB and DMG and an adventure and MAYBE you can play to the ruleset. its no different here.

There is a learning curve (just like having to read the books when you first started playing D&D). and many people on the forum would give their time to help. FG IMO is overwhelming at first, although I do believe it has gotten better since I started 4 years ago. Perhaps WotC's eventual VTT would be more polished and such, but I guarantee you will have to spend money and I doubt anything but 5E will be playable.

I have tried about 6 or 7 VTTs and for my table, FG is by far the best, ONCE you get used to it. NONE of the ones I tried would I consider even close to working out of the box and all had a cost beyond the initial or monthly if you wanted someone else's Intellectual property to play with.

Good luck Hammer. sorry its not what you are looking for.

Jiminimonka
February 23rd, 2025, 09:23
Wow... I wouldn't expect a $50 car to fit my wildest dreams either.

Just like playing TT (and taking piracy off the table), someone has to own the books you need to play. in the case of FG, the DM is the only one that has to have the books, either purchased or put in by hand. D&D TT doesn't just work out of the box either. you buy the PHB and DMG and an adventure and MAYBE you can play to the ruleset. its no different here.

There is a learning curve (just like having to read the books when you first started playing D&D). and many people on the forum would give their time to help. FG IMO is overwhelming at first, although I do believe it has gotten better since I started 4 years ago. Perhaps WotC's eventual VTT would be more polished and such, but I guarantee you will have to spend money and I doubt anything but 5E will be playable.

I have tried about 6 or 7 VTTs and for my table, FG is by far the best, ONCE you get used to it. NONE of the ones I tried would I consider even close to working out of the box and all had a cost beyond the initial or monthly if you wanted someone else's Intellectual property to play with.

Good luck Hammer. sorry its not what you are looking for.

This!

Jiminimonka
February 23rd, 2025, 09:25
Then we are done here. FGU will not support the game my group is playing. Thank You for telling me. I will take this info and share it with others like me.

Farewell!

Morenu
February 23rd, 2025, 13:28
I will add one more thought, Show me another VTT that has as many 1e/2e Books available for purchase, ready to play... with MANY more in the pipeline. I know I have purchased over $700 in 2e books with plans to finish all 3 bundles again over the next 3 months... and I do not currently play 2e, LOL. but I would say it Is one of the best supported rulesets FGU has (guessing top 10 maybe top 5). So I personally doubt you will find a better 2e/1e supported VTT, it is an out of print system with little monetary return compared to other rulesets. and you need WotC permission to sell the books.

Jiminimonka
February 23rd, 2025, 13:50
I will add one more thought, Show me another VTT that has as many 1e/2e Books available for purchase, ready to play... with MANY more in the pipeline. I know I have purchased over $700 in 2e books with plans to finish all 3 bundles again over the next 3 months... and I do not currently play 2e, LOL. but I would say it Is one of the best supported rulesets FGU has (guessing top 10 maybe top 5). So I personally doubt you will find a better 2e/1e supported VTT, it is an out of print system with little monetary return compared to other rulesets. and you need WotC permission to sell the books.

hammer was talking about someone downloading pirated copies of pdfs and adding it to FG for them. So...... its not about FG really its about getting free stuff.

JohnD
February 23rd, 2025, 16:32
Well he's gone. Too bad but everyone has to make decisions about their hobby time, rightly or wrongly. If he didn't like the FG version of AD&D nobody else has the license right now anyways.

The 2e Barbarian is in the Complete Barbarian's Handbook. Monk class was not part of 2e so it isn't anywhere (a very inferior version is in the Complete Priest's Handbook - essentially a Cleric) but you can make a custom class based on the AD&D Monk or, the revamped version in Best of Dragon volume III pages 53-55 in about 30 minutes.

hammer58
February 27th, 2025, 16:29
hammer was talking about someone downloading pirated copies of pdfs and adding it to FG for them. So...... its not about FG really its about getting free stuff.

Wow did you miss the mark by a country mile. I am talking about support for a product and if the customer does not get the support he wants he will leave and go else where. I will cite an example of what I am talking about. Hasbro/wizards of the coast have stopped supporting 1E/2E version of D&D and went on to 3.0 3.5 4.0 5 and now what they are calling 5.5. All to boost sales when they slump. They never went back to product support of 1E/2E. That is where the players are going. So what happens. In the absence of supply the demand creates a new supply. OSR is the result and sales are climbing while 5E sales dropped enough that they went to 5.5 to revive them. What WILL happen to FG will be the same IF they do not give the customer what they want. The monk and the barbarian for 1E/2E games.
I did post a copy write version of D&D publication in which both classes exist but are NOT supported by FG. I do not care what reason they have for not supporting them. I will go elsewhere to get the support and some one will do it. Just like OSR natively happened. That is what happens if FG denies the customer what they want.

hammer58
February 27th, 2025, 16:40
I will add one more thought, Show me another VTT that has as many 1e/2e Books available for purchase, ready to play... with MANY more in the pipeline. I know I have purchased over $700 in 2e books with plans to finish all 3 bundles again over the next 3 months... and I do not currently play 2e, LOL. but I would say it Is one of the best supported rulesets FGU has (guessing top 10 maybe top 5). So I personally doubt you will find a better 2e/1e supported VTT, it is an out of print system with little monetary return compared to other rulesets. and you need WotC permission to sell the books.

OSR got around all of that. Same stuff now supported with new modules being made constantly and sales are going up and stealing from Hasbro D&D 5.5 sales. Demand has created supply.

Jiminimonka
February 27th, 2025, 16:52
Wow did you miss the mark by a country mile. I am talking about support for a product and if the customer does not get the .... blah blah

Did you read the other replies or check the store for D&D content. Because there is loads of content. Of course if requires purchase because someone adapted it to work in FG and WotC require payment too.

Jiminimonka
February 27th, 2025, 16:55
OSR got around all of that. Same stuff now supported with new modules being made constantly and sales are going up and stealing from Hasbro D&D 5.5 sales. Demand has created supply.

Source and VTT?

The Decepticon
February 27th, 2025, 16:57
I did post a copy write version of D&D publication in which both classes exist but are NOT supported by FG. I do not care what reason they have for not supporting them. I will go elsewhere to get the support and some one will do it. Just like OSR natively happened. That is what happens if FG denies the customer what they want.

Where does it stop? You argue that you want a barbarian and a monk in 2e, which is NOT OFFICIAL. What happens when you want to play an artificer? These are things that you and your players can add into the campaign.

You want 5e classes in 2e, that's not how that works.

hammer58
February 27th, 2025, 17:30
Where does it stop? You argue that you want a barbarian and a monk in 2e, which is NOT OFFICIAL. What happens when you want to play an artificer? These are things that you and your players can add into the campaign.

You want 5e classes in 2e, that's not how that works.

What are you babbling about? I posted official D&D printed books in which these classes officially existed in print. Do not tell me what is NOT OFFICIAL. I started playing AD&D in Lake Geneva in TSR hobbies store with GG as the DM in 1979. We played from his 3 ring binder of notes as he was finalizing the first publication of the AD&D players handbook, who the heck are you?

But all of this is getting side tracked from where I started. No one I have watched on you tube other than the developers with help videos for FG understand how FG functions.
I have seen many players and DM's struggle with the FG system. A comment keeps on coming up constantly, I have no idea what FG is doing so lets do this manually and add it to FG. Then the struggle some times gets mighty as they struggle to understand what FG did to their game to back it out of the stats and manually add in what they want it to be.
Point is it takes far longer to play out a scene in FG than it does to do it pen and paper. I get it that when your group can not be in the same room together you need a VTT.
But it just has to work better. Role 20 does some thing better and some worse. Players still need something better than either of these to use.

hammer58
February 27th, 2025, 17:33
Did you read the other replies or check the store for D&D content. Because there is loads of content. Of course if requires purchase because someone adapted it to work in FG and WotC require payment too.

Yes and its not there. One only has to go to discord to see that there is a demand for what I am asking for.

Jiminimonka
February 27th, 2025, 17:51
What are you babbling about? I posted official D&D printed books in which these classes officially existed in print. Do not tell me what is NOT OFFICIAL. I started playing AD&D in Lake Geneva in TSR hobbies store with GG as the DM in 1979. We played from his 3 ring binder of notes as he was finalizing the first publication of the AD&D players handbook, who the heck are you?

You are rude.

Whatever you are looking for, if you asked nicely one of the other repliers to this thread might have made your barbarian or whatever you are after. But your post is just a rant and you don't care to take heed of the replies. Go troll somewhere else.

LordEntrails
February 27th, 2025, 17:55
Wow did you miss the mark by a country mile. I am talking about support for a product and if the customer does not get the support he wants he will leave and go else where. I will cite an example of what I am talking about. Hasbro/wizards of the coast have stopped supporting 1E/2E version of D&D and went on to 3.0 3.5 4.0 5 and now what they are calling 5.5. All to boost sales when they slump. They never went back to product support of 1E/2E. That is where the players are going. So what happens. In the absence of supply the demand creates a new supply. OSR is the result and sales are climbing while 5E sales dropped enough that they went to 5.5 to revive them. What WILL happen to FG will be the same IF they do not give the customer what they want. The monk and the barbarian for 1E/2E games.
I did post a copy write version of D&D publication in which both classes exist but are NOT supported by FG. I do not care what reason they have for not supporting them. I will go elsewhere to get the support and some one will do it. Just like OSR natively happened. That is what happens if FG denies the customer what they want.
Fantasy Grounds IS THE ONLY VTT that legally supports AD&D content. If you want to pirate your books then you can go anywhere. Some of them might even have illegal copies of the books you want converted into the VTT format.

One of those books, or at least a print version of it, is available in FG. I gave you the link earlier. If you would like to see the other book converted to FG, then you should engage politely and constructively with the community devs that chose what they want to convert. Maybe if you even prove helpful and professional enough, you can get permission to join them and start converting what you want AND get it posted to the FG store and start making commission on the sales of it.


OSR got around all of that. Same stuff now supported with new modules being made constantly and sales are going up and stealing from Hasbro D&D 5.5 sales. Demand has created supply.
Perhaps, would love to see some actual data. What I could find was OSR people comparing sales within OSR books or against all books in general. Not against the big TTRPG players like WotC or Paizo etc.

What are you babbling about? I posted official D&D printed books in which these classes officially existed in print. Do not tell me what is NOT OFFICIAL. I started playing AD&D in Lake Geneva in TSR hobbies store with GG as the DM in 1979. We played from his 3 ring binder of notes as he was finalizing the first publication of the AD&D players handbook, who the heck are you?
You posted links to illegally distributed copies of copyrighted books. We don't allow that here. Whether you played with GG or not is irrelevant. And if you did I would think you would respect the OGs of the industry and actually support them by not pirating what they created.

Oh, and to add, as a moderator, I will ask you to be polite and respectful. You can disagree and voice most any opinion you wish here, as long as you are respectful and civil.

hammer58
February 27th, 2025, 18:21
You posted links to illegally distributed copies of copyrighted books. We don't allow that here. Whether you played with GG or not is irrelevant. And if you did I would think you would respect the OGs of the industry and actually support them by not pirating what they created.

Oh, and to add, as a moderator, I will ask you to be polite and respectful. You can disagree and voice most any opinion you wish here, as long as you are respectful and civil.

You asked me to be specific with what I wanted so I posted copies of official D&D publications as you ask of me to be specific. Showed you specific examples of D&D books of the classes missing.
The 2E version you posted back to me of the barbarian, I already have and it is different than the one I posted that you say I can not post to prove my point. How convenient of you.
The term is CYA.

MrDDT
February 27th, 2025, 18:22
What are you babbling about? I posted official D&D printed books in which these classes officially existed in print. Do not tell me what is NOT OFFICIAL. I started playing AD&D in Lake Geneva in TSR hobbies store with GG as the DM in 1979. We played from his 3 ring binder of notes as he was finalizing the first publication of the AD&D players handbook, who the heck are you?

But all of this is getting side tracked from where I started. No one I have watched on you tube other than the developers with help videos for FG understand how FG functions.
I have seen many players and DM's struggle with the FG system. A comment keeps on coming up constantly, I have no idea what FG is doing so lets do this manually and add it to FG. Then the struggle some times gets mighty as they struggle to understand what FG did to their game to back it out of the stats and manually add in what they want it to be.
Point is it takes far longer to play out a scene in FG than it does to do it pen and paper. I get it that when your group can not be in the same room together you need a VTT.
But it just has to work better. Role 20 does some thing better and some worse. Players still need something better than either of these to use.

As others have told you, you are able to add these into FG VTT as you wish. The work would be on you because WOTC doesn't allow sales of older versions of D&D. You also wont find them in other VTTs again because WOTC doesn't allow sales of older versions of D&D to VTTs.

If you want to play that way, you are welcome to, but WOTC doesn't allow sales of them to happen. So you would have to do the work yourself. Now, FG VTT does support older versions, just can't sell the books for it. Which makes it easier on you to do those rulesets.
If you find a ruleset that doesn't work for you, you can use CORE RPG, which is based on the d20 ruleset and open for adding in pretty much anything that uses a d20 rolling system.

What I would do most likely, is pick the ruleset that fits close to the rules you do use and then go from there. You might end up just using FG VTT more of a campaign manager than a VTT so much as you likely would do most of the stuff manually. But with a little work shouldn't be to hard to start adding more and more in for you if you know the rules.

It sounds like your major beef is not with the VTT but with the author of the ruleset, which in this case is TSR AKA WOTC.

Jiminimonka
February 27th, 2025, 18:42
But all of this is getting side tracked from where I started. No one I have watched on you tube other than the developers with help videos for FG understand how FG functions.

Utter nonsense.

ddavison
February 27th, 2025, 19:20
All of the official D&D 2E books we have available for purchase for Fantasy Grounds were created within Fantasy Grounds directly and then exported. That means that the ruleset itself supports adding whatever information you want to add. You can even /export to make the final version into a module that you share with your players or reuse across multiple campaigns. You can do this for homebrew content, official content you don't want to purchase, etc.

It sounds like you want to play D&D 2E online and you are trying the tool but having issues using it effectively. Based on your past gaming history, you are probably older as well. Many of us are also older. It is normally harder for us to adapt and change our ways as we age. You have developed a system for running in person that you evolved over decades of play and it probably is pretty efficient for what you choose to manage. You probably throw out stuff that is too cumbersome to manage. FG is just a tool and it can also take time to learn the best system. You can learn to use it effectively and benefit from it, if you give it time and you approach it with a desire to learn how to do it. Asking specific questions will garner the best results.

For a new class, it is not really that hard to add if you have the original book content.

Open a class that is the closest to the class you want to make
Click the Duplicate Record button
Open the copy, unlock it and and edit the description and other tab


Once done, your player's can use that class. If you want to save this into a custom module you can reuse across campaigns, then you would type /export into the chat window and pick and choose which of your items you want to export.

LordEntrails
February 27th, 2025, 20:34
You asked me to be specific with what I wanted so I posted copies of official D&D publications as you ask of me to be specific. Showed you specific examples of D&D books of the classes missing.
The 2E version you posted back to me of the barbarian, I already have and it is different than the one I posted that you say I can not post to prove my point. How convenient of you.
The term is CYA.
Thank you for being more civil.

I understand now why you posted the links you did. But it would have been just as (or more so) effective to say something like this;
"How can I get the Monk class from the book XYZ and the Barbarian class from the book ABC into FG so we can use them with the AD&D 2E ruleset?"
Then people could have pointed you to resources like the threads, YouTube videos, free FG Academy classes, a summary like ddavision gave you, or even offered to walk you through the process live via Discord.

Just like if you had started off saying something like "Hey we've been playing D&D for 50 years and are trying to run the Temple of Elemental Evil in the 2E ruleset and are having problems. Specifically, how do we get a spell to target multiple opponents, rolls the saves and then apply the damage like I see some folks do on YouTube? And have no idea how we can get weapons speeds to work. How can we get some help?"

I have never played AD&D with FG (and not that version in decades) and so I can't give you specific suggestions. But the folks who use the ruleset and the developer who coded it hang out in the D&D Classics forum here: Classic D&D (1E/2E, AD&D, OSRIC) (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?73-Classic-D-amp-D-(1E-2E-AD-amp-D-OSRIC)) They are really pretty nice group of folks and I'm sure they would love to help another OSR fan out if treated nicely.

Edit: I did just learn of this, it might be useful to you. Once you get it, you will have to update FG and then you will be able to load it from within a Classic D&D Campaign. FG Forge - View Item (https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/1454/view)

Laerun
March 1st, 2025, 18:12
Yes and its not there. One only has to go to discord to see that there is a demand for what I am asking for.

If you need any help or tips with Fantasy Grounds hit me up. I have a long time D&D hobby behind me and an affinity to help others to use the Fantasy Grounds VTT platform. I am happy to show you some best practices and the reality of the effort to put into a VTT. Hit me up.