Should Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse NPCs be marked as Legacy?

[cwsoots]

While we may see a replacement in the future for the monsters contained within Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse, at least according to D&D Beyond, the monsters in MotM are not yet considered "Legacy." I understand why FGU marks them as such based on the format of the NPC sheet. However, I believe that it might be a misnomer in FG to label them as Legacy, IMHO. Should the MotM monsters be 'corrected' or are there reasons why they are labeled as Legacy in FGU only?

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[Zacchaeus]

I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at. The 5e ruleset caters for two different formats of monsters one for the 2024 version and one for whatever came before. Since Mordenkainen is one that came before it's correctly in legacy format. The only monsters that have so far been released by WotC are in the PHB and Monster Manual and are correctly in 2024 format. Switching the format of legacy NPCs to 2024 would remove certain information (such as saving throw bonuses) as well as change the format of various other parts of the sheet which aren't present or worded differently in the legacy version.

[cwsoots]

Format of the stat block aside, WotC has clearly not marked the MotM monsters as "Legacy". Feel free to view the sample screenshot or visit D&DBeyond.com to see for yourself. SmiteWorks has chosen to label all monsters that don't use the current stat block format as "Legacy". It appears that WotC and SmiteWorks have different definitions for the use of the term "Legacy". I was simply pointing out this difference, and to raise the question of whether SmiteWorks should consider not labeling the MotM monsters as legacy even though they use the classic stat block format.

I welcomed the Legacy flag in FGU to differentiate the 2014 vs. the 2024 content, but I question whether it's accurate for the non-legacy content as defined by WotC.

[Zacchaeus]

As I said Legacy and 2024 is simply ways to differentiate between the two different stat blocks and rules. Changing that for any books prior to the 2024 ones will have a detrimental effect on the way that the NPCs can be used. And not everyone who is using Mordenkainen will have switched over to the 2024 rules.

[cwsoots]

As I said Legacy and 2024 is simply ways to differentiate between the two different stat blocks and rules. Changing that for any books prior to the 2024 ones will have a detrimental effect on the way that the NPCs can be used. And not everyone who is using Mordenkainen will have switched over to the 2024 rules.

I understand how SmiteWorks uses the term Legacy, and I understand that if SmiteWorks were to correctly match the term "Legacy" in line with WotC's use, it might require a third state (e.g., a monster that uses an old stat block, but is not a "Legacy" monster). I also am realistic to expect that in the coming years, WotC may re-publish these monsters with the new stat blocks. I have no current solution to propose—I'm happy to leave it to the Devs to propose one.

I would like to see SmiteWorks demonstrate an understanding and/or provide a solution that matches WotC's use of the Legacy term, as again evidenced in the attached screenshot. I fail to see why this is such an argumentative issue—monsters from MotM are not Legacy content according to WotC. Thank you for your consideration! :)

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[Moon Wizard]

Our position is that anything in old book printings and stat blocks are "Legacy", and anything from the 2024 PHB onward is marked as "2024".
We're going to leave it there for now; because that distinction drives how fields are displayed and drive the interface.

Regards,
JPG