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MentalChillness
June 8th, 2023, 00:22
It's an awesome tool and would blow up if more people knew about it and how it works. MCG needs to move into the FG VTT space, not just Alchemy, Roll20 or whatever else. Everybody's missing out on an system that can play any genre! It can be homebrewed to how you like it, more crunch, np, less crunch, the GM just describes each scene. Come on everybody!

Laerun
June 8th, 2023, 08:57
It's an awesome tool and would blow up if more people knew about it and how it works. MCG needs to move into the FG VTT space, not just Alchemy, Roll20 or whatever else. Everybody's missing out on an system that can play any genre! It can be homebrewed to how you like it, more crunch, np, less crunch, the GM just describes each scene. Come on everybody!

I like your enthusiasm. Have you thought of creating your own content or perhaps making videos with your favorite rulesets or assets? I feel the same way in regards to the FGU. However, most of the users in this forum already have FG or were using it. The only real way to spread the love is to support Smiteworks, help new folks, and create related and helpful content.

MentalChillness
June 8th, 2023, 09:15
I like your enthusiasm. Have you thought of creating your own content or perhaps making videos with your favorite rulesets or assets? I feel the same way in regards to the FGU. However, most of the users in this forum already have FG or were using it. The only real way to spread the love is to support Smiteworks, help new folks, and create related and helpful content.

Brother, I've send several messages to MCG and to Smiteworks, Doug Davison. I'm really trying to get Cypher System officially supported on FGU. Poe and I were talking about try to convert some of the core books over into FG as modules with References. It's going to take a lot of time and everybody has their time quite full. I think we are slowly but surely making an impact. Saagaal created the Cypher++ extension, based off the MoreCore extension to allow us to at least have character sheets and a running system. A few years ago I converted a pdf into a game that I GM and the group loved it. The demand, passion and love is there. We just need to get organized and start creating whole Cypher System Rules, Discovery or Destiny modules to send to MCG to how they like it, want to edit it, or possibly accept it. From what I've heard is that communication with them can be difficult and they aren't going to code all their books into FGU, so that leaves us the community. But we can't redistribute or sell these copies as they are licensed and we would have to send them to MCG to see if they want to sign their licensing contract with Smiteworks based on volunteer's work. That's how a lot of these smaller TTRPGs get their products onto the FG marketplace, but some make it easier than how MCG works with them.

sirkerry
June 8th, 2023, 19:51
Brother, I've send several messages to MCG and to Smiteworks, Doug Davison. I'm really trying to get Cypher System officially supported on FGU. Poe and I were talking about try to convert some of the core books over into FG as modules with References. It's going to take a lot of time and everybody has their time quite full. I think we are slowly but surely making an impact. Saagaal created the Cypher++ extension, based off the MoreCore extension to allow us to at least have character sheets and a running system. A few years ago I converted a pdf into a game that I GM and the group loved it. The demand, passion and love is there. We just need to get organized and start creating whole Cypher System Rules, Discovery or Destiny modules to send to MCG to how they like it, want to edit it, or possibly accept it. From what I've heard is that communication with them can be difficult and they aren't going to code all their books into FGU, so that leaves us the community. But we can't redistribute or sell these copies as they are licensed and we would have to send them to MCG to see if they want to sign their licensing contract with Smiteworks based on volunteer's work. That's how a lot of these smaller TTRPGs get their products onto the FG marketplace, but some make it easier than how MCG works with them.

Aren't all (or almost all) of the Cypher System available as an SRD? At least that appears to be the where the Foundry game system implementation of Cypher System is sourcing their content from.

Moon Wizard
June 8th, 2023, 19:57
Perhaps that's something new that they implemented (i.e. SRD); since their initial launch? If so and someone wants to make a SRD version of modules, we can include them.

Regards,
JPG

Trenloe
June 8th, 2023, 20:12
Perhaps that's something new that they implemented (i.e. SRD); since their initial launch?
Yep, it was only about a year ago.

https://screwtapello.gitlab.io/cypher-system-reference/index.html

sirkerry
June 8th, 2023, 22:17
Perhaps that's something new that they implemented (i.e. SRD); since their initial launch? If so and someone wants to make a SRD version of modules, we can include them.

Regards,
JPG

Yeah, apparently last year Monte Cook Games reworked the licensing for Cypher System as the Cypher System Open License (https://www.montecookgames.com/cypher-system-open-license/) that includes a Cypher System Reference Document (CSRD) that includes almost all of the rules content from their various rulebooks.

wndrngdru
June 9th, 2023, 02:24
With the current state of the ruleset, we could get started on the abilities in the CSRD. Types, Foci, etc., would probably need to wait until some proper libraries for those things get built in. They could go in a Reference Manual, though, then linked later when the rest of the good stuff gets built.

Saagael
June 9th, 2023, 05:58
With the current state of the ruleset, we could get started on the abilities in the CSRD. Types, Foci, etc., would probably need to wait until some proper libraries for those things get built in. They could go in a Reference Manual, though, then linked later when the rest of the good stuff gets built.

The next ruleset update will include foci, descriptors, types, flavors, and ancestries as library items.Though for that release they'll only be text boxes with no mechanical function. The release after that will add things like having lists of Abilities by tier and such. Once that's in it should be good to start transcribing.

NPCs are already in a good place. Items are probably good enough for now, though there are likely a few quality of life updates.

In fact, transcribing content from the books is an excellent way to build up a list of features that needs to be supported. For a while now I've mostly been operating on what I think would be useful, as I'm not familiar with most of the Cypher content.

And definitely getting a Reference Manual will take long enough that most of the other core library features will be in place by the time anyone starts thinking about creating Abilities en masse.

MentalChillness
June 13th, 2023, 04:10
The next ruleset update will include foci, descriptors, types, flavors, and ancestries as library items.Though for that release they'll only be text boxes with no mechanical function. The release after that will add things like having lists of Abilities by tier and such. Once that's in it should be good to start transcribing.

NPCs are already in a good place. Items are probably good enough for now, though there are likely a few quality of life updates.

In fact, transcribing content from the books is an excellent way to build up a list of features that needs to be supported. For a while now I've mostly been operating on what I think would be useful, as I'm not familiar with most of the Cypher content.

And definitely getting a Reference Manual will take long enough that most of the other core library features will be in place by the time anyone starts thinking about creating Abilities en masse.

Thank you for all the work you've done. I'm happy that we even have the ability to play Cypher on FG and our own spot on the forum now. I'd like to start working on creating some of the books for FGU as modules but I understand they can't be shared until MCG licenses it to Smiteworks. As someone who owns ALL the Numenera and The Strange books, and am halfway through the Cypher System books, our community is growing and I appreciate all the work you've put into it

Saagael
June 13th, 2023, 04:27
Thank you for all the work you've done. I'm happy that we even have the ability to play Cypher on FG and our own spot on the forum now. I'd like to start working on creating some of the books for FGU as modules but I understand they can't be shared until MCG licenses it to Smiteworks. As someone who owns ALL the Numenera and The Strange books, and am halfway through the Cypher System books, our community is growing and I appreciate all the work you've put into it

You're very welcome! A good amount of the cypher system is under an SRD (posted by Trenloe a new posts up) that would likely mean that you can indeed share some of that work, and Moon Wizard said that if we put together an SRD module he'd add that to FG for free.

As for converting, the next two updates I'm working on will be focused on getting the ruleset to a place where everything in the books can be entered into FG. Next up on my docket is getting Items, Types, Descriptors, Foci, and Flavors filled out with all the data they need. Once that's in place you'll be able to transcribe basically anything in the game (at least the stuff I've seen, and I only have the core Cypher rulebook).

All that to say: as I add more features to the ruleset you'll likely need to go back and do passes over certain things to link it all up. But that will probably be pretty quick if you've already got it all made.

sirkerry
June 13th, 2023, 04:42
As for converting, the next two updates I'm working on will be focused on getting the ruleset to a place where everything in the books can be entered into FG. Next up on my docket is getting Items, Types, Descriptors, Foci, and Flavors filled out with all the data they need. Once that's in place you'll be able to transcribe basically anything in the game (at least the stuff I've seen, and I only have the core Cypher rulebook).



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