View Full Version : Dragon Breath Weapon on Eidalon
GM Abhi
April 11th, 2023, 07:29
I've spent three hours but nothing in secrets of magic or in base pathfinder character sheets let's me add this breath weapon to my players sheet. I'm genuinely exausted and wanted to ask, how do I add a breath weapon to an Eidalon character sheet (Also why do they come blank with none of their feats or melee attacks?)
Trenloe
April 11th, 2023, 07:31
...wanted to ask, how do I add a breath weapon to an Eidalon character sheet ...
The same question was asked yesterday: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?77468-Summoner-Eidolon-HP-sync-Issue&p=683875&viewfull=1#post683875
Trenloe
April 11th, 2023, 07:54
Also why do they come blank with none of their feats or melee attacks?
The abilities are listed under the type of Eidolon entry in the summoner abilities. Adding the eidolon abilities directly to the eidolon sheet will be included in a future release.
The melee attacks are difficult to code as the rules are very broad in how the attacks are created; from Secrets of Magic, page 98: "Your eidolon starts with two unarmed attacks. Each eidolon entry suggests some forms the eidolon’s attacks might take, but since eidolons can have a variety of body shapes, you decide the specific form of the unarmed attacks (claw, jaws, horn, fist, and so on) when you choose your eidolon." There follows 4 different weapon stats for the primary attack and then each eidolon has at least three "suggested attacks" (the beast eidolon has 5 suggested attacks) so there would have to be maybe 20 options coded for each eidolon. It's something we'll look into handling better in the future, in the meantime the player needs to manually add the melee attack required to the eidolon's action tab. For example, if the player decides on a beast eidolon with a claw (slashing) attack and with the 1d6 damage (forceful and sweep) statistics:
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GM Abhi
April 11th, 2023, 21:00
Follow up, I used the alchemists bomb and reworked into into the dragons breath weapon. Some warnings to anyone reading, if you make a 2nd eidalon for a pc it breaks their hp sharing, if you make a eidalon for your eidalon you break their hp. The quickest solution is to copy the pc's sheet, delete all eidalon abilities and readd just one and then remake the eidalon. Beyond that, it sucks but it takes more work than it should for eidalons.
Trenloe
April 11th, 2023, 22:13
I'd recommend reviewing the video on how to create a summoner in this Secrets of Magic update video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqaZdTEkiJE This will show you the steps and also give more background on how it all hangs together.
Some warnings to anyone reading, if you make a 2nd eidalon for a pc it breaks their hp sharing, if you make a eidalon for your eidalon you break their hp. The quickest solution is to copy the pc's sheet, delete all eidalon abilities and readd just one and then remake the eidalon. Beyond that, it sucks but it takes more work than it should for eidalons.
The link for the eidolon occurs when you add the summoner class as part of initial character creation and select the eidolon type - which creates the eidolon PC record and links it to the base PC. Ideally, this is what you stick with - as the link is created automatically for you. If you want to manually create additional eidolons, then you'll need to manually link the eidolon you wish to use with a PC (only have one eidolon linked at a time) - otherwise FG won't know which eidolon you wish to use for a summoner.
To change the eidolon linked to the summoner open the "CLASS & LEVEL" details window (#1 below) and click the "Linked PCs" button (#2 below). You can then remove an existing linked eidolon and drag a new eidolon to the list (drag from the "Character Selection" window) - make sure you only have one eidolon in this list and that you select "=Init" to enable initiative syncing. You'll need to restart FG after changing a linked eidolon in order to sync from the base summoner PC to the eidolon record.
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GM Abhi
April 12th, 2023, 01:57
Thats really useful, thanks. I've been pampered as 5e player and things being both simple and unbalanced lol.
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