[Bug?/Request?] Show GM rolls OFF w/ Show results to client ON

[Hjorimir]

It feels like when you have these settings (Show GM rolls OFF and Show results to client ON) that chat should hide the actual roll of an NPC (e.g., d20+3) but show if the result of [HIT], [MISS], or [CRITICAL HIT]. I don't want the players seeing the modifier to the d20 roll, but I like them seeing the result. It appears that if you have Show GM rolls OFF, it never shows the result one way or the other (i.e., Show GM rolls overrides Show results to client). Is this a bug? If not, can we make it a request? Seems like it would be a small thing to implement.

[Zacchaeus]

This is exactly what those two in combination do. With DM rolls off then the players don't see the roll that the DM makes - so they don't see the dice nor does the dice get shown in chat. With Show results to client on then the players see the result of the roll; whether hit or miss etc. See the attached images from DM and player view with DM rolls off and show results to client on.

If you are not seeing this then I'd suggest that maybe an extension that you are using is interfering with the output.

[Moon Wizard]

Here is what I see with those settings (see attached image).
It does not show the actual roll to the player client; only the final result.

Regards,
JPG

[Hjorimir]

Here's an AD&D ruleset (no extensions) example of what I'm seeing.

[Bonkon]

Good Day Hjorimir :)
The picture you attached shows the GM side, which should show all the info. When you are connected as a player do you see the same thing? :)

[Hjorimir]

Hey, Bonkon! I'm talking about the hidden aspect. I expect to see everything as the GM. However, my players (when connected obviously) cannot see the result despite my having show results to clients option set to ON. The lines (see my image, above), where the [MISS] and [HIT] are reported should not have the hidden eyeball. They should be displayed for all.

[damned]

Please post the Client view too?

[Hjorimir]

Sure thing! GM view on the left, Client view on the right here.

[damned]

OK well you ought to post this in the 2E ruleset section as it looks like it is specific to that ruleset.

It may be how Celestian intended it to work or it might be a bug.

[Hjorimir]

I'll give it a try. Thanks!

[The Decepticon]

Here is what I see with those settings (see attached image).
It does not show the actual roll to the player client; only the final result.

Regards,
JPG

I am just curious, is there a way to not show the dice result to the client (in this example above the 27)? I just want them to know if it is a hit/miss/critical etc. What is the point of hiding the dice roll if it just gives out the final result anyway?

[Trenloe]

I am just curious, is there a way to not show the dice result to the client (in this example above the 27)? I just want them to know if it is a hit/miss/critical etc. What is the point of hiding the dice roll if it just gives out the final result anyway?
This is simulating how you'd play face-to-face - the GM would roll behind their screen, add any bonuses/penalties and then ask the player "does a 27 hit?" The players don't know what the roll was, nor the bonuses the attacker had, just the final total - the players don't know what the attacking bonus was, so don't get an idea how powerful the creature is; a few hits later they may get a better idea!

If you want to completely hide the roll and total, roll in the tower - you'll then have to tell the players if the attack was a hit, miss, critical - and I bet the odd player will ask what the roll total was...

[The Decepticon]

This is simulating how you'd play face-to-face - the GM would roll behind their screen, add any bonuses/penalties and then ask the player "does a 27 hit?" The players don't know what the roll was, nor the bonuses the attacker had, just the final total - the players don't know what the attacking bonus was, so don't get an idea how powerful the creature is; a few hits later they may get a better idea!

If you want to completely hide the roll and total, roll in the tower - you'll then have to tell the players if the attack was a hit, miss, critical - and I bet the odd player will ask what the roll total was...

Thanks Trenloe for the explanation. I think there is an extension on what I am looking for. I just downloaded it and will look at it later.