World of Darkness 20th Anniversary Edition Ruleset (Revive) for FGU

[Meldon]

MODERATOR EDIT - JPG:
According to recent reports, this ruleset has not been maintained and no longer seems to be working.

There is a support for a latest version of the World of Darkness system available in the FG store officially licensed from the publisher.

Note: This is not the same version of WoD game system that the ruleset in this thread originally supported.

Hi guys!

I decided to continue to support and further develop the wonderful ruleset of the respected earthworm3 ! (Link to the thread (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?19662-Vampire-the-Masquerade-Ruleset-for-FG3)).
Now this is a single ruleset for the old World of Darkness 20th Anniversary Edition (support for the lines of Vampires, Werewolves and Magi, with plans to add Changelings and Wraiths).

In this topic, I will post new versions, TODO lists, perhaps a small FAQ.
Found bugs please post in this thread.

For starters, I post links to the stable rulesets (inside there are folders broken down by version) and the current beta version.
Link to Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pzDYv0ToPzAupCM6IyBFptSlL7JhsVuS?usp=sharing).

Changelog

v0.4.6
New stable version!
The main dish is the support of character sheets from the Changeling: The Dreaming and Wraith: The Oblivion lines (as well as a simple sheet for a Mortal)! Remember, the character sheet switching menu is triggered by right-clicking on the More button.
There are also a lot of fixes and changes under the hood aimed at cleaning, optimization, and so on.
As always, breaking changes possible, backup your campaign before switching version!

v0.3.0
Attention, breaking changes!
A lot of refactoring and cleaning of xml schemas and lua code. The charsheets of the characters from the old version of the ruleset will be partially broken, you may have to re-configure some of the traits or even recreate the character.
Be careful if you are going to use the new version in the old campaign - it would probably be a good idea to finish it first with the previous version of the ruleset, lol. Or just backup the campaign for a quick rollback and see all the new changes. :o
Therefore:
- added "+/-" buttons for each trait to add/remove dots accordingly.
- added trait editing buttons that display/hide the above buttons.
- the trait roll is now performed by double-clicking on the dots, and not the trait name.
- slightly changed the colors for the charsheets of the game lines, for a more obvious difference between them, small decorative elements were added to the main screen. Work on other tabs to add similar decorative elements will continue in future versions.
- the tabs themselves are given abbreviated names instead of page numbering.
- many identical scripts have been removed (duplication of functionality).
- a bit of game logic for dice rolls, for example, the botch will not be used for damage rolls or soaking rolls.
- other minor changes that I have already forgotten about myself. :D

[Meldon]

faq / howto

// todo

[Meldon]

ROADMAP/ WISHES

v0.5


The ability to add sublists to powers, in which you can choose combinations of attributes and abilities to roll a specific branch of power, fields for spending some resources, fields for individual difficulty;
Changeable size of Blood Pool, some hot-buttons for more quick filling/spending (i.e. +2 BP, +5 BP, -2 BP, -5 BP);
The ability to create entries describing the power in the side panel for a simple drag and drop on the character sheet. Automate creating and filling powers;


Some future


Some Shapechanging buttons for Werewolf charsheet;
More entries in side panel;
Support for some useful effects in CT;
Ruleset to the Forge;

[Lensman]

Thank you for this!

[GSKlein]

Hi guys!

I decided to continue to support and further develop the wonderful ruleset of the respected earthworm3 ! (Link to the thread (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?19662-Vampire-the-Masquerade-Ruleset-for-FG3)).
Now this is a single ruleset for the old World of Darkness 20th Anniversary Edition (support for the lines of Vampires, Werewolves and Magicians, with plans to add Changelings and Wraiths).

In this topic, I will post new versions, TODO lists, perhaps a small FAQ.
Found bugs please post in this thread.

For starters, I post links to the latest version from the old thread and the current beta version.
Link to Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pzDYv0ToPzAupCM6IyBFptSlL7JhsVuS?usp=sharing).

I look forward to further updates on this ruleset...I've already begun using it and my players are loving it.

Thanks so much...keep up the great work...and keep the ruleset going please !!

[vegaserik]

Nice! Love seeing more WoD stuff getting to FGU.

[Kingfish]

Love, love LOVE IT!!!

I'm not just missing something am I? I mean there isn't any library for this. We supply our own manuals and this is just like a pen'n'paper character sheet, right? I haven't even tried to see if the CT works...just too excited!!!

[Kingfish]

This was from the old thread...but it is something that I am currently 'stuck' on as well:


Sorry I probably wasn't clear.

Like in other rulesets there are the buttons across the side of the desktop where you have tabs such as "Story", "Tables" etc

It would be nice to have a spot for Clan, Disciples and Bloodlines like where you'd have "Race", "Feats" and "Special Abilities" in say Pathfinder.


This is something that, for me, is a nearly must have.

EDIT: and just to be clear, VtM 5E has 'buttons' for: Characters, Images, Story, SPCS, Items, Vehicles, Disciplines, Predators, Notes, Tables, Quests, Encounters, Parcels, Clans, Merits, and Skills

[Meldon]

This was from the old thread...but it is something that I am currently 'stuck' on as well:




This is something that, for me, is a nearly must have.

EDIT: and just to be clear, VtM 5E has 'buttons' for: Characters, Images, Story, SPCS, Items, Vehicles, Disciplines, Predators, Notes, Tables, Quests, Encounters, Parcels, Clans, Merits, and Skills

Yeah, I understand what functionality you want, I'll think about implementing it in future versions, especially about Disciplines. Characters, Images, Story, Quests, Notes, Encounters and NPCs can be created anyway, this functionality is built into CoreRPG, from which our ruleset also inherits.

[Kingfish]

Yeah, I understand what functionality you want, I'll think about implementing it in future versions, especially about Disciplines. Characters, Images, Story, Quests, Notes, Encounters and NPCs can be created anyway, this functionality is built into CoreRPG, from which our ruleset also inherits.

Thanks for considering this! Your work on this is just capital! Much appreciated and if there is anything I can do to assist, let me know.

[GSKlein]

Hello...was gaming last night and tried the Combat Tracker...my player got lots of error messages when I added NPCs to it...

Hoping to see some fixes...but still loving having a ruleset for my favorite game!

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[Meldon]

Hello...was gaming last night and tried the Combat Tracker...my player got lots of error messages when I added NPCs to it...

Hoping to see some fixes...but still loving having a ruleset for my favorite game!

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It's the last ruleset revision (i.e. 0.3.0) throwing all those errors? Only client see these messages or host too?

[GSKlein]

It's the last ruleset revision (i.e. 0.3.0) throwing all those errors? Only client see these messages or host too?

Yes...sorry the latest ruleset (0.3.0)

Only the client saw the messages...I didn't see anything as the host / GM.

[Meldon]

Yes...sorry the latest ruleset (0.3.0)

Only the client saw the messages...I didn't see anything as the host / GM.

Thank you, i'll investigate what cause it and fix it.

[Meldon]

Yes...sorry the latest ruleset (0.3.0)

Only the client saw the messages...I didn't see anything as the host / GM.

I uploaded the beta version 0.4.1 on Google drive, you can try it, I hope I fixed the above problems in it.

[GSKlein]

Hello...this new version 0.4.1 seems a little broken as well. There's error messages once you delete a character off the tracker. (see jpg CT and Ct2 as well as compiled log)522855228652287

Also...now the Character sheet doesn't look correct. Its now setup to add/subtract dots all the...in the discipline area the toe dots are all over the name, etc (see jph Character Sheet) 52288

Thanks Meldon...still loving the ruleset...just needs some corrections. My Players are going crazy for this !!

[Meldon]

Hello...this new version 0.4.1 seems a little broken as well. There's error messages once you delete a character off the tracker. (see jpg CT and Ct2 as well as compiled log)522855228652287

Also...now the Character sheet doesn't look correct. Its now setup to add/subtract dots all the...in the discipline area the toe dots are all over the name, etc (see jph Character Sheet) 52288

Thanks Meldon...still loving the ruleset...just needs some corrections. My Players are going crazy for this !!

Hello GSKlein! Thank you for your help in finding ruleset bugs!

Conducted a quick check and could not reproduce these errors with the combat tracker. Deleting records of PC/NPC from CT passes without errors. As for the broken charsheet - it looks very much like it was created before version 0.3.0, because neither in it nor in the new beta v0.4.1, the dots of disciplines / gifts / other superpowers should not be displayed on the main sheet. Could you create a new character and check if his sheet is broken too? And also check how his entry is deleted/added to the combat tracker (with or without errors)?

Thats how sheet should look 52297.

[GSKlein]

This doesn't seem to work (version 0.4.1)...I created a whole new campaign using it and creating a character didn't quite work right (see pictures)
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Just to update this seems to be a problem when first creating a character...Mortal...as when you change the sheet to Vampire or what not it shows correctly. I also notice you can't change the sheet back to Mortal. (Nice job adding the other character sheets though for Changling and Wraith...if you can solve the Mortal sheet issue...awesome...because I do have mortals in my games.)


Though the Combat Tracker does seem to work now with no errors.

[Meldon]

This doesn't seem to work (version 0.4.1)...I created a whole new campaign using it and creating a character didn't quite work right (see pictures)
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Just to update this seems to be a problem when first creating a character...Mortal...as when you change the sheet to Vampire or what not it shows correctly. I also notice you can't change the sheet back to Mortal. (Nice job adding the other character sheets though for Changling and Wraith...if you can solve the Mortal sheet issue...awesome...because I do have mortals in my games.)


Though the Combat Tracker does seem to work now with no errors.

I uploaded a new beta version to Google drive where, if possible, I fixed the above problems ;).
Please note that this is still beta, not release version of 0.4.1, bugs and flaws are still there.

[GSKlein]

Hello Meldon,

I'm still getting the same errors and problems with the new beta version...character sheets just don't seem to be loadign correctly or viewing correctly. I've even started a new campaign / story...and the test shows the same issues.

Sorry to be a pain...but still loving the ruleset...my players are in Heaven...or perhaps my gaming Hell...but they keep crawling back for more. Love this ruleset !!

[Meldon]

Hello Meldon,

I'm still getting the same errors and problems with the new beta version...character sheets just don't seem to be loadign correctly or viewing correctly. I've even started a new campaign / story...and the test shows the same issues.

Sorry to be a pain...but still loving the ruleset...my players are in Heaven...or perhaps my gaming Hell...but they keep crawling back for more. Love this ruleset !!

I couldn't recreate this behavior. We need more information. In general, it sounds like the rulset has not changed at all.

Let's do this - I increased the version of the ruleset to 0.4.2 without any additional changes and created a new folder on Google drive, the version should be displayed as such when running in the FG chat. This way we will make sure that the version has really changed and carries fixes of past problems.

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[GSKlein]

Hello Meldon...looks like this is still broke...and then some.

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I'm running 0.4.2 version...but if I try to create a character or NPC the sheets don't load correctly. There's no dots in attributes, skills or anything else. And if you chose the button to add you just get an error and no dots.

Still a great ruleset but needs some fixes.

[Meldon]

Hi all! I apologize for the long delay in responding.
I found the reason for the behavior described above - unfortunately, these are extremely unpleasant changes for our ruleset in the latest stable version of FGU, namely the removal of some tags for 'windowlist', which provided its core functionality for the ruleset in the area of displaying character 'dots'. So far, I do not know how to restore the normal operation of the ruleset and I will ask for help from the FGU developers.
Therefore, the release of the new version is delayed. Sorry about that. :cry:

[GSKlein]

Hi all! I apologize for the long delay in responding.
I found the reason for the behavior described above - unfortunately, these are extremely unpleasant changes for our ruleset in the latest stable version of FGU, namely the removal of some tags for 'windowlist', which provided its core functionality for the ruleset in the area of displaying character 'dots'. So far, I do not know how to restore the normal operation of the ruleset and I will ask for help from the FGU developers.
Therefore, the release of the new version is delayed. Sorry about that. :cry:

Hey I'm just happy you're still on this and version 0.3.0 is still stable and usable. I'm not sure of all the changes made to get to 0.4.2 but just happy you continue to work on it.

[Meldon]

Hello everyone!
Everything turned out to be not so terrible and I found a way to fix the problems described above (I hope I really fixed it :o). As usual, the latest beta is v0.4.3 on Google drive.

[GSKlein]

Just checked the latest update Meldon as I'm gaming this weekend and it looks pretty good.

I would like to mention that the Mortal Character Sheets don't populate the top section on the first page (ie nature, demeanor, etc). It does do it on the other character type sheets (ie vampire, werewolf, etc)

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[Meldon]

Just checked the latest update Meldon as I'm gaming this weekend and it looks pretty good.

I would like to mention that the Mortal Character Sheets don't populate the top section on the first page (ie nature, demeanor, etc). It does do it on the other character type sheets (ie vampire, werewolf, etc)

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Done. Added new fields for nature, demeanor and concept for PC and NPC sheets alike. Also added missing tooltips for NPC feats page. New beta v0.4.4 on Google drive.

A few tweaks for changeling and wraith template in future and if no bugs will pop-up - those version could graduate to new stable ;) hooray!

[GSKlein]

Done. Added new fields for nature, demeanor and concept for PC and NPC sheets alike. Also added missing tooltips for NPC feats page. New beta v0.4.4 on Google drive.

A few tweaks for changeling and wraith template in future and if no bugs will pop-up - those version could graduate to new stable ;) hooray!


Hello...nice to see this ruleset continues to be worked on. I've got a game going and my players are loving it.

However, I still don't see natures, demeanors etc on NPC sheets when I create new ones (see screen print). I am using version 0.4.4...going back and using version 0.3.0 the natures and demeanors are there.

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[Meldon]

Hello...nice to see this ruleset continues to be worked on. I've got a game going and my players are loving it.

However, I still don't see natures, demeanors etc on NPC sheets when I create new ones (see screen print). I am using version 0.4.4...going back and using version 0.3.0 the natures and demeanors are there.

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Just select 'Mortal' template' - they will appear.

[GSKlein]

And just like that I'm schooled and put in my place!

Thanks Meldon...you are correct and its all good now. Thank you so much for setting me straight!

[t3xx3r]

Thank you for your contribution, man!

[GSKlein]

Just select 'Mortal' template' - they will appear.

Any possibility of adding more main tabs?

Just hoping to get an area where I can clearly write up Disciplines, Clans, Bloodlines, Nature & Demeanors, Skills, etc

A lot of rulesets have the Tool, Library, Player, Campaign and then Character tabs.

Just a thought...

[t3xx3r]

Seconded. This would help GMs and Players out a lot. Players, who deal with player creation, may find it a lot easier to just click and drag what they need and plop it onto their sheet.

[Kingfish]

Thirded...tripled...agreed!

It is a must to have this before I can bring this to my "table"...my players are pretty lazy and need a lot of hand holding. ;)

[Meldon]

The new v0.4.5 version is already here! Hopefully, in the absence of powerful bugs, this beta version will be able to become a new stable one!

[Meldon]

Any possibility of adding more main tabs?

Just hoping to get an area where I can clearly write up Disciplines, Clans, Bloodlines, Nature & Demeanors, Skills, etc

A lot of rulesets have the Tool, Library, Player, Campaign and then Character tabs.

Just a thought...

Could you be more specific?
The Clan, Nature & Demeanor fields are located on the main tab, similar to the character sheet from the book.
The skills are below.
Disciplines or other supernatural powers of the characters, as well as backgrounds and notes are created in the character's mini-sheet, which opens by clicking on the "More" button.

[viresanimi]

He means on the sidebar, so we can create a module with all these things and then drag/drop them on to characters / npc's so we don't have to make it every ... single... time...

Which is pretty much what every ruleset have now. Even the Vampire 5th edition has it...

[GSKlein]

Yes totally agree. It would be great to have the additional sections in the sidebar. It would be great to be able to do Clans & Bloodlines, Disciplines, Merits & Flaws, etc just as Pathfinder has Classes, Feats, Races etc

[GSKlein]

Hey I noticed on the Mortal Character Sheet that the Virtues section on the first page is missing.

[Kingfish]

He means on the sidebar, so we can create a module with all these things and then drag/drop them on to characters / npc's so we don't have to make it every ... single... time...

Which is pretty much what every ruleset have now. Even the Vampire 5th edition has it...

Yes, yes...this. Must have for my slothful bunch of turds...

[Meldon]

He means on the sidebar, so we can create a module with all these things and then drag/drop them on to characters / npc's so we don't have to make it every ... single... time...

Which is pretty much what every ruleset have now. Even the Vampire 5th edition has it...

Yes totally agree. It would be great to have the additional sections in the sidebar. It would be great to be able to do Clans & Bloodlines, Disciplines, Merits & Flaws, etc just as Pathfinder has Classes, Feats, Races etc

Guys, I understand what you want, but I'm asking you literally:

what should, for example, a clan record do when dragging onto a character sheet? What fields should it contain? What fields on the sheet should the record fill in?

By the way, new beta v0.4.6 is here, found and fix some bugs, again :cry:.

[Naurthoron]

The challenge also with those things is that since this system is for each supernatural creatures, you will end up with a plethora of different powers.
The common ones would be: Merits/Flaws/Backgrounds (name/description/level).
(name/description/level) would be applicable to any of the below ones as well:
VtM: Disciplines/Powers(incl. level)/Rituals
WtA: Auspice/Tribe/Breed/Gifts(incl. Rank and categorized by Auspice/Tribe/Breed)/Rites (catgorized by type of rites)/Fetishes
MtA: Rotes using spheres levels/Wonders (name/description/spheres-level)
WtO: Arcanoi
CtD: Arts

NB: I may edit this post with more details after reviewing the relevant books in more details as time allows.

[GSKlein]

For my initial thoughts...I just need tabs where I can add things...

For Natures and Demeanors...we just need a tab to put them under (do the write-up) and then players / NPCs can just add them to the character sheet.
For Merits and Flaws...we just need a tab to put them under and a place to list a "Cost" or "Bonus" points you get when choosing (we can do the write-up) that way player / NPCs just put on their sheets and link to the merit or flaw
For Disciplines, Gifts and Powers...I think we need to show the "Level" of it and then a spot to type out what powers etc you get for it...then of course players / NPCs can just add to their sheets
Clan/Tribe/Breed/Auspice...we can just do the write-up...like so many other things

Really I just need the tabs to be able to do the write-ups...I don't much need functionality to have the write-ups do something.

Anyone have other thoughts?

[Kingfish]

Anyone have other thoughts?

Doesn't some of the Merits/Flaws and Disciplines, affect(effect maybe) certain dice pools and even some of the raw attribute & ability totals...I think there is a lot more to simple 'drag & drop' functionality. BUT, as a place to just give us the ability to keep the stuff on a sheet...the tabs could do that.

I for one would volunteer to transcribe these from my books over to a word/notepad format. If that would help. Several folks could make quick work of it I would think.

Just a thought...

[Naurthoron]

Doesn't some of the Merits/Flaws and Disciplines, affect(effect maybe) certain dice pools and even some of the raw attribute & ability totals...I think there is a lot more to simple 'drag & drop' functionality. BUT, as a place to just give us the ability to keep the stuff on a sheet...the tabs could do that.

I for one would volunteer to transcribe these from my books over to a word/notepad format. If that would help. Several folks could make quick work of it I would think.

Just a thought...

I will avoid here to talk about IP legal aspects and community sharing of such content.
The advantage of the drag and drop of objects as previously suggested is that you can create modules with them and they can serve as a reference for the players from within their character sheet in the game and you would have to create each object only once as they will be re-used. It is easier to drag and drop an object from a library than to copy paste a whole description every time from an external source, and with your suggested method you will miss the advantages of searching through the different fields when needed.
By the way, the use of objects is the way all rulesets are currently working.

You don't have to automate everything you may start just with the basics first and later expand.
Merits and flaws usually don't have dice pools, they are merely bonus/malus or descriptive.
Disciplines definitely have those, but even in the VTM5TH commercial ruleset you don't have automation on rolls based on disciplines dice pool description. It would anyway be difficult to implement as you would need to catch a specific format string in the description and create the dice pool out of it based on the user's character stats, then the challenge would be to apply the right difficulty modifiers etc... You would need a whole window before throwing the dices to adjust the dice pool and difficulty. First step would be to have a system to create dice pools like in VTM5TH based on stats and setting the difficulty.
Foundry VTT implementations decided that when you click on a stat (attribute or skill) a window pops with that stat nd the others set as default values letting you adjust the stats and difficulties before throwing the dice pool.

[Kingfish]

I will avoid here to talk about IP legal aspects and community sharing of such content.

Totally true...I was clearly just caught up in the moment. Just thinking with my heart(insert steak) and not my brain. Apologies...

[GSKlein]

Doesn't some of the Merits/Flaws and Disciplines, affect(effect maybe) certain dice pools and even some of the raw attribute & ability totals...I think there is a lot more to simple 'drag & drop' functionality. BUT, as a place to just give us the ability to keep the stuff on a sheet...the tabs could do that.

I for one would volunteer to transcribe these from my books over to a word/notepad format. If that would help. Several folks could make quick work of it I would think.

Just a thought...

I don't need automation...my Players are capable of adding dice to their pools.

Just a place to really put the info and can export it would be great.

[Kingfish]

I suppose the same...I just have exceptionally worthless players I guess. And/OR, just very old...we played WoD when it was fresh on the market. That means we are all over...55! Some of us are a touch over 60 even ;)

[Meldon]

@GSKlein, @Naurthoron, @Kingfish,

Thank you all, kind sirs, for your answers, it really helps!
One of these days I will try to write a message with a proposed roadmap for future development, which will include your wishes.
So far, I'm thinking about implementing records for powers (Disciplines, Gifts, etc.) in the next stable version (i.e. v0.5), and other types for the future.

Thank you all again for the detailed discussion!

[GSKlein]

Thank you Meldon for all the word on this ruleset. I was fearful I'd never get to play WoD Original / V20 ever again since my players aand I only do online rpging now...we live away from one another and have busy family lives. So this ruleset has been a dream...

If anyone other there wants to work on a Shadowrun 5th ruleset...

LOL

I find sometimes the new versions of games just don't have the sweet feel of the older versions.

[Kingfish]

If anyone other there wants to work on a Shadowrun 5th ruleset...

LOL

I find sometimes the new versions of games just don't have the sweet feel of the older versions.

I agree with this and fully endorse it as well!!! The old FASA Shadowrun was an awesome system that I just never got to run much cause peeps seemed to prefer GURPS or Cyberpunk 2020 to Shadowrun. Pity really...I really dug all the background and work they did on it back in the day!

[Boldtaar]

LOL i didn't know they released a 6ed edition.

Keep up the good work!

(PM me if anyone want to GM WoD or Shadowrun. Love both but has never had many opportunities to play them)

[Areaus]

I'd love to see Hunter: The Reckoning added to this list of rules. Still useful nonetheless.

[damned]

I dont know if this ruleset is of interest to you guys - https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/732/view
Its a basic World of Darkness ruleset and I think it mechanically supports WoD20E.

[Naurthoron]

I dont know if this ruleset is of interest to you guys - https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/732/view
Its a basic World of Darkness ruleset and I think it mechanically supports WoD20E.

Actually it does not, yours is for the (new) World of Darkness, now known as Chronicles of Darkness, the system presents some differences.

[damned]

Ahhh very good - thank you.

[mantonyz]

I am having a weird issue with the character sheet. Difficult to explain with text. Please see this video https://imgur.com/a/bAxbKb3

Any help is appreciated, Thank you.

Edit: I'm running v0.4.6

[Meldon]

I am having a weird issue with the character sheet. Difficult to explain with text. Please see this video https://imgur.com/a/bAxbKb3

Any help is appreciated, Thank you.

Edit: I'm running v0.4.6

Yes, this is a bug in this version of the ruleset, the frames of skills and advantages overlap each other.
I fixed this in the next 'wannaby-stable' version, but so far it is still unstable :o and has a few new bugs.
You can try it at your own risk, the link to the current betas is on the first page.

[mantonyz]

Yes, this is a bug in this version of the ruleset, the frames of skills and advantages overlap each other.
I fixed this in the next 'wannaby-stable' version, but so far it is still unstable :o and has a few new bugs.
You can try it at your own risk, the link to the current betas is on the first page.

Ahh yes, bugs fixes begetting more bugs. I feel your pain. We all appreciate the work you put into this, please keep it up.

[GSKlein]

Totally agree...keep up all the good work and fixes. I'm loving being able to play this game again.

[GSKlein]

Just wanted to say still loving this ruleset...my players are having fun playing a game we've loved for years.

Keep moving forward and upgrading it! Love it!!

[StainedRose]

Hi everyone,
I'm a veteran oWoD Vampire player and after reading all these great posts, I'm wondering if there is a version for FGU, as it seems that all FG moves in that direction.

If so, could anyone be so kind to point me to the files/folder to download the pak and extensions for Masquerade and Dark Ages?
Either for 2nd Ed, 2nd Rev and/or V20.

Thank you so much in advance!

[GSKlein]

Yes, this is a bug in this version of the ruleset, the frames of skills and advantages overlap each other.
I fixed this in the next 'wannaby-stable' version, but so far it is still unstable :o and has a few new bugs.
You can try it at your own risk, the link to the current betas is on the first page.

Are you still doing updates and mods to this ruleset? I and my players are loving it but haven't seen and new updates for a while...

[GSKlein]

Hey Meldon if you're still working on this ruleset it would be great to add in Vampire the Dark Ages character sheet...sort of like you have mortal, werewolf, mage etc sheets.

[GSKlein]

Meldon...just noticed that on many of the Character Sheets the Skills and Knowledges column have an extra row of the final skills showing. Just not looking or working correctly.

[Meldon]

Hi guys!
I apologize for not answering for a long time.
I continue to work on the ruleset, though not in as much active mode as before. It affects the fact that I, as a storyteller, am playing a game in the World of Darkness, plus a new job takes time.

In the development version, as usual, there are several nasty bugs :cry:, because of which I do not want to post as a stable next release (for example, the health links of the characters in the combat tracker are broken). Although some features that my players requested were added out of turn.
For the strong in spirit, I will update the latest beta version available in Google Drive on the weekend, although there are almost no visible changes, there is a lot of work under the hood.

I hope that soon after the New Year I will be able to release version 0.5 as stable. Well, or at least as not very broken :D.

[GSKlein]

Looking forward to the next updated Stable version...my players are loving this!

Man I remember when I began playing this in the 1990's...man I'm dating myself. Never thought we'd be able to really play this again since the guys and I have gone virtual (thanks to COVID originally...then just to the distances between us all)...and along came this ruleset!! I'm not a fan of V5 so this is giving us our fix.

Once again thanks so much Meldon!!

[merploc]

Hi guys!
I apologize for not answering for a long time.
I continue to work on the ruleset, though not in as much active mode as before. It affects the fact that I, as a storyteller, am playing a game in the World of Darkness, plus a new job takes time.

In the development version, as usual, there are several nasty bugs :cry:, because of which I do not want to post as a stable next release (for example, the health links of the characters in the combat tracker are broken). Although some features that my players requested were added out of turn.
For the strong in spirit, I will update the latest beta version available in Google Drive on the weekend, although there are almost no visible changes, there is a lot of work under the hood.

I hope that soon after the New Year I will be able to release version 0.5 as stable. Well, or at least as not very broken :D.
Hello friend I am looking to run WoD CtL 2E does this beautiful work of yours support that edition?

[Syldar]

Hello. Just wanted to say I love that you went in so much trouble to create all this, but there are very annoying bugs on latest version of Fantasygrounds 4.3.8.
I'm using the latest stable version of Wod20e.

For example, I just roll dices, errors. Please check the error below:
[5/8/2023 9:33:38 AM] (ERROR] Script execution error: [string "WOD20E:scripts/manager_actions.lua"]:412: attempt to call field 'isClientFGU' (a nil value)
5/8/2023 9:33:41 AM ERROR Script execution error: [string "WOD20E:scripts/manager actions.lua":412: attempt to call field 'isClientFGU' (a nil value)

Another thing I don't understand, why isn't there blood pool or generation slot in the npc/pc character sheet?
Why can't we add more talents, skills and knowledge. One slot for each is really not enough. It's digital, so we should have almost no limit. It would be amazing also if they would sort alphabetically (with a button or automatically).

I don't understand also why when we have to enter the disciplines in a more page, rather than on a separate tab or under the skills.
That is really not practical.

Also, could you make the character sheet fonts a bit bigger, it is really too small on large displays, like 5K displays or retina displays. But maybe this is too complicated.
But at least, adding a visual space every 5 dots, so things get more visible. Yes, a red point appear starting at 6, but it is less ergonomic visually (I'm designer, so this is a professional opinion here, not a matter of taste).
Why no space for conviction, self-control, courage? We have plenty of space to enter it as text, but it could be cool to have it as a dedicated place.

Also it seems you have a crossover system. But I have not found a selector to decide if a PC/NPC is a vampire, a human, a ghoul, a werewolf, a mage and so on.

When I add an npc in the combat tracker, I get errors:
15/8/2023 9444:34 AMI(ERROR Handler error: (string "CoreRPG:ct/scripts/ct.lua*]:28: attempt to index field 'summary_targets' (a nil value)
15/8/2023 9244.34 AM) (ERROR Handier error: (string "CoreRPG:ct/scripts/ct.lua"]:28: attempt to index field 'summary_ targets" (a nil value)
15/8/2023 94434 AMT (ERRORS Handler error: [string "CoreRPG:cU/scripts/ct.lua*"]:28: attempt to index field 'summary_targets* (a nil value)

The NPC has an initiative modifier of 4, but when I roll the dice, I get error, and it roll only 1d10 and don't add the 4 to the result. Its initiative is not showing in the combat tracker.
[5/8/2023 9:44:34 AMI (ERRQRO Handler erfor: [string "CoreRPG:cU/scripts/ct.lua"]: 28: attempt to index field 'summary _targets' (a nil value)
[5/8/2023 9:44:34 AMJUFRBOR] Handler error: [string "CoreRPG:ct/scripts/ct.lua"]:28: attempt to index field 'summary_targets' (a nil value)
15/8/2023 9:45:29 AMJERBORIeScript execution error: (string "WOD20E:scripts/manager actions.lua"1:412: attempt to call field 'isClientEGU' (a nil value).

So, so far I can't use this ruleset to track combats. I can only use it to create NPCs how I can, write the scenario and use maps.

Do I do anything wrong? Or is bugs that need to be fixed?
And what do you think about the ergonomic improvements I suggested. Please let me know. I'll be glad to help on the visual/ergonomic aspects of the ruleset if you want (but I can't help on any coding).

Oh, and when I try to create a table, I got this error, and when I roll the dices, nothing happens.
Error :
[5/13/2023 10:59:59 PM] [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "CoreRPG:campaign/scripts/table_main.lua"]:104: attempt to call field 'convertDice To String' (a nil value)
[5/13/2023 11:01:37 PM] (ERROR] Script execution error: [string "WOD20E:scripts/manager_actions.lua"):412: attempt to call field 'isClientFGU' (a nil value)

Console:
[5/8/2023 9:27:29 AM] FGU: v4.3.8 ULTIMATE (2023-04-27)
[5/8/2023 9:27:29 AM] OS: Mac OS X 13.3.1
[5/8/2023 9:27:29 AM] GRAPHICS: Apple M1 Max : 49152
[5/8/2023 9:27:29 AM] UI SCALE: 1.5
[5/8/2023 9:27:29 AM] USER: Syldar
[5/8/2023 9:27:29 AM] Launcher scene starting.
[5/8/2023 9:28:00 AM] [WARNING] URL: LICENSE 1
[5/8/2023 9:28:00 AM] [WARNING] URL: UPDATE 1
[5/8/2023 9:28:00 AM] [WARNING] URL: DICE PACKS
[5/8/2023 9:28:00 AM] [WARNING] URL: System.Net.WebException: Error: SecureChannelFailure (Remote prematurely closed connection.) ---> System.IO.IOException: Remote prematurely closed connection.

[5/8/2023 9:33:16 AM] Match successfully created on lobby.
[5/8/2023 9:33:21 AM] MEASURE: RULESETS LOAD - 7.84721 - WOD20E
[5/8/2023 9:33:21 AM] MEASURE: EXTENSIONS LOAD - 0.025956 - 3
[5/8/2023 9:33:21 AM] MEASURE: MODULE LIST BUILD - 0.370274 - 29
[5/8/2023 9:33:21 AM] MEASURE: REFRESH IMAGE ASSETS - 0.045633
[5/8/2023 9:33:21 AM] MEASURE: REFRESH PORTRAIT ASSETS - 0.016304
[5/8/2023 9:33:21 AM] MEASURE: REFRESH TOKEN ASSETS - 0.093267
[5/8/2023 9:33:21 AM] MEASURE: ASSET LIST BUILD - 0.15728
[5/8/2023 9:33:22 AM] MEASURE: LOAD - PART 1 - 9.657181
[5/8/2023 9:33:25 AM] RULESET: World of Darkness 20th Anniversary Edition RPG ruleset (v0.4.6) for Fantasy Grounds
[5/8/2023 9:33:25 AM] RULESET: Core RPG ruleset (2023-04-25) for Fantasy Grounds
Copyright 2023 Smiteworks USA, LLC
[5/8/2023 9:33:25 AM] EXTENSION: (LINK)\nMoon Tracker v2.5\r--created by DMFirmy and updated by Andraax and bmos.
[5/8/2023 9:33:26 AM] EXTENSION: Timer v1.3
[5/8/2023 9:33:26 AM] EXTENSION: CoreRPG - LARGE Fonts version 1.1.\rby Celestian, 2021
[5/8/2023 9:33:26 AM] MEASURE: LOAD - PART 2 - 3.342131
[5/8/2023 9:33:38 AM] [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "WOD20E:scripts/manager_actions.lua"]:412: attempt to call field 'isClientFGU' (a nil value)
[5/8/2023 9:33:41 AM] [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "WOD20E:scripts/manager_actions.lua"]:412: attempt to call field 'isClientFGU' (a nil value)
[5/8/2023 9:38:22 AM] [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "WOD20E:scripts/manager_actions.lua"]:412: attempt to call field 'isClientFGU' (a nil value)
[5/8/2023 9:38:26 AM] Campaign saved. (0.1s)
[5/8/2023 9:43:26 AM] Campaign saved. (0.1s)
[5/8/2023 9:44:34 AM] [ERROR] Handler error: [string "CoreRPG:ct/scripts/ct.lua"]:28: attempt to index field 'summary_targets' (a nil value)
[5/8/2023 9:44:34 AM] [ERROR] Handler error: [string "CoreRPG:ct/scripts/ct.lua"]:28: attempt to index field 'summary_targets' (a nil value)
[5/8/2023 9:44:34 AM] [ERROR] Handler error: [string "CoreRPG:ct/scripts/ct.lua"]:28: attempt to index field 'summary_targets' (a nil value)
[5/8/2023 9:44:34 AM] [ERROR] Handler error: [string "CoreRPG:ct/scripts/ct.lua"]:28: attempt to index field 'summary_targets' (a nil value)
[5/8/2023 9:44:34 AM] [ERROR] Handler error: [string "CoreRPG:ct/scripts/ct.lua"]:28: attempt to index field 'summary_targets' (a nil value)
[5/8/2023 9:45:29 AM] [ERROR] Script execution error: [string "WOD20E:scripts/manager_actions.lua"]:412: attempt to call field 'isClientFGU' (a nil value)

Very best,
Nicolas

[GSKlein]

Hey anyone still working on this? It currently doesn't seem to work real well. I'd pay for working ruleset!!

[damned]

Not the same version but here is a free Chronicles of Darkness ruleset.
https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/732/view

[GSKlein]

Thanks...I can't seem to get it to show or activate or whatever I need to do. I don't see it in my ext or mods or ruleset.

[damned]

Chronicles of Darkness
New Campaign

[wndrngdru]

Thanks...I can't seem to get it to show or activate or whatever I need to do. I don't see it in my ext or mods or ruleset.

Don't forget to update FGU so it actually installs the ruleset from the forge.

[GSKlein]

Don't forget to update FGU so it actually installs the ruleset from the forge.

Thanks I got the ruleset to load as a GM...but when a player takes a character it just disappears and they can access it.

Strange.

With meldron's when a player takes a character they don't see any of the dots and can't add any though as the GM my character sheet shows the changes. It used to work but I guess its brown with he latest FGU updates or Corerpg updates.

Pity it's one of my favorite systems.

[damned]

I havent used the ruleset myself in some time. Please report bugs. I have uploaded a new build that should load PCs properly.

[GSKlein]

Yes its working now. Thanks!

[GSKlein]

World of Darkness 20th Anniversary Edition Ruleset (Revive) for FGU

This ruleset doesn't let players see their character / modify their character and see the changes...only the host sees it.

Can anyone fix this!? #MissingMyV20Ruleset LOL

[Vanthcrist]

Hi everyone, I'm late for the party... Can anyone give some pointers on how to install this ruleset???

Thanks for your help!

[GSKlein]

Hi everyone, I'm late for the party... Can anyone give some pointers on how to install this ruleset???

Thanks for your help!

Well the ruleset doesn't seem to work.
When my players join they can't get a copy of their character as it is. If they change it, it changes what I see as the GM but if I change it the Players don't see any difference.

[t3xx3r]

Is this ruleset being updated consistently for the current version of FGU? It seems like a lot of the community rulesets don't meet the necessary requirements to run on the current version of FGU, becoming broken.

[vegaserik]

No. It hasn't been worked on in a few years.

[GSKlein]

Is this ruleset being updated consistently for the current version of FGU? It seems like a lot of the community rulesets don't meet the necessary requirements to run on the current version of FGU, becoming broken.

I believe this ruleset is dead.

[t3xx3r]

I believe this ruleset is dead.

That's unfortunate. Looks like FGU mods would need to do spring cleaning.

[Jiminimonka]

There is now this https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/?sys=56

[LordEntrails]

That's unfortunate. Looks like FGU mods would need to do spring cleaning.
We don't delete threads. Too arbitrary and time consuming.

[Moon Wizard]

I added a note to the first post in the thread noting that it appears abandoned and doesn't work; and that the most recent version is officially available in the store with rulebooks and adventures.

Regards,
JPG

[Grimaxe]

There is now this https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/?sys=56


I mean that's all find, but this mod was for WoD 20th edition not V5. (Or Rappan athuk for PF1E, or D&D 3.5 instead of only the 5E module :( )

If they would make the WoD20th edition content I know a lot of people who'd buy that stuff up in a heartbeat because we absolutely despise V5's system changes. Can't just convert the sheets either since there's some core mechanical differences the V5 designers implemented to basically force gameplay to fit the "style" they envisioned as "correct" for the game (nevermind that style of play being possible in prior editions).

V5 is more of an entirely different game (like chronicles of darkness, yuck) from WoD 20th (which is also very close to the prior revised edition, similar to D&D 3 > 3.5)

[superteddy57]

That is not up to us as we would need permission from the current holder of the IP to create the content. We suggest reaching out to them directly and letting them know you would like to see it on our platform.

[Grimaxe]

That is not up to us as we would need permission from the current holder of the IP to create the content. We suggest reaching out to them directly and letting them know you would like to see it on our platform.

That's fair, if someone wanted to tinker with this ruleset to try and get it functional again. I know there's the foundry documentation, is there any particular section you think would be helpful to zoom in on getting started with that?

[superteddy57]

I was referring to the current license holder for the WOD20th edition. I believe Paradox Interactive is the current owner for most of the earlier editions. As for this, it might be best to see if any of the ruleset devs would want to take this on and start over.

[Grimaxe]

As for this, it might be best to see if any of the ruleset devs would want to take this on and start over.

Probably, I'll poke around a little working from the error logs it throws though. I'm no expert by any means but have spent a little time staring at error logs doing game modding which can get a little obnoxious. The one from FGU seems to provide fairly detailed information which helps in hunting down the problems (but of course, we shall see lol).

[superteddy57]

Good luck and the discord has a coding help channel if you have questions.

https://discord.com/channels/274582899045695488/389093811021807616

[JiFish]

I appreciate that the mods have put a note at the top of this thread. But directing users to the V5 ruleset is highly misleading and potentially even as far as false advertisement.

For the benefit of people that don't know - and I almost made this mistake - V5 is *not* backwards compatible with V20 / oWoD. The V5 rules module *will not* be suitable for running these systems and *is not* a viable alternative to this defunct community module.

[Naurthoron]

I appreciate that the mods have put a note at the top of this thread. But directing users to the V5 ruleset is highly misleading and potentially even as far as false advertisement.

For the benefit of people that don't know - and I almost made this mistake - V5 is *not* backwards compatible with V20 / oWoD. The V5 rules module *will not* be suitable for running these systems and *is not* a viable alternative to this defunct community module.

Not at all, it is said that the World of Darkness 20th Anniversary Edition Ruleset is not maintained anymore and that only the newest version of the rulebooks is supported in an official WoD Ruleset (i.e. v5). They never said it was the same or that it was backward compatible and it actually is a viable alternative if you want to play the game with the v5 rules instead of the v20, it still is the world of darkness.

[JiFish]

I didn't say they said it was backwards compatible - I said it is misleading. One could assume (and I did) that if you are being directed to an alternative that alternative would work for what you were originally looking for.

> it actually is a viable alternative if you want to play the game with the v5 rules instead of the v20

That is splitting hairs. Why would you even be on this thread unless you want to play v20?

Look. I'm not going to argue this. I almost made a $50 mistake. Maybe I'm an idiot. I just don't want anyone else to make a $50 mistake. I really don't think adding "(this module is not compatible with V20)" is a crazy outrageous ask.

[Naurthoron]

Why would you even be on this thread unless you want to play v20?

Don't let your anger cloud your judgement and start to be aggressive because I do not agree with your original statement.
I am playing both v5 and v20 and would love that a v20 Ruleset emerges back for Mage for instance.

[JiFish]

I am not angry. Please don't do that. It is very rude to assign someone else's emotional state.

[vegaserik]

I appreciate that the mods have put a note at the top of this thread. But directing users to the V5 ruleset is highly misleading and potentially even as far as false advertisement.

For the benefit of people that don't know - and I almost made this mistake - V5 is *not* backwards compatible with V20 / oWoD. The V5 rules module *will not* be suitable for running these systems and *is not* a viable alternative to this defunct community module.

Hardly false advertisement jeez, not everyone is an expert on obscure rule sets and were likely just trying to be helpful. I don't think there was any malice what so ever here.

[vegaserik]

I didn't say they said it was backwards compatible - I said it is misleading. One could assume (and I did) that if you are being directed to an alternative that alternative would work for what you were originally looking for.

> it actually is a viable alternative if you want to play the game with the v5 rules instead of the v20

That is splitting hairs. Why would you even be on this thread unless you want to play v20?

Look. I'm not going to argue this. I almost made a $50 mistake. Maybe I'm an idiot. I just don't want anyone else to make a $50 mistake. I really don't think adding "(this module is not compatible with V20)" is a crazy outrageous ask.

Also Smite Works has a money back guarantee so you'd get a refund if you wished.

[Moon Wizard]

Going to close this thread, since this ruleset is no longer supported by the author for many years, and it is no longer working.

Will revise the first post moderator message to note that the FG Store version supports a different version of the World of Darkness system than this one does. However, the one in the FG Store is the only official version supported by request of the publisher.

Regards,
JPG