5E - Blissful Ignorance

[MeAndUnique]

Current Version: 1.1.6
A Fantasy Grounds extension that adds effects for extra functionality around damage resistance and immunity.

The following targetable Effects have been added:

ABSORB: (n), types - When the target takes damage from one of the provided damage types, they instead are healed for n times the damage. n is optional and defaults to 1. e.g. "ABSORB: lightning" may be used for a shambling mound.
IGNORE[R]: types - Damage dealt by the bearer of this effect will ignore R to any of the damage types, where R can be one of ABSORB, IMMUNE, RESIST, or VULN. e.g. "IGNORERESIST: fire" for a Fire Elemental Adept.
[R1]TO[R2]: types - Damage dealt by the bearer of this effect will treat R1 as R2 for any of the damage types, where R1 and R2 may be one of ABSORB, IMMUNE, RESIST, or VULN. e.g. "IMMUNETORESIST: radiant" would cause the damage dealt by a paladin's divine smite to treat radiant immunity as radiant resistance instead.
MAKEVULN: types - Damage dealt by the bearer of this effect will treat a creature without any sort of resistance to the damage types as if they were vulnerable. e.g. "MAKEVULN: slashing" would cause a wraith to take double damage from magic swords, but still take half damage from nonmagical, unsilvered swords.
REDUCE: n, types - This functions exactly as RESIST: n, except it will also stack with normal resistance. Note: this will not presently stack with RESIST: n.
UNHEALABLE: (types) - The bearer of this effect cannot benefit from any healing of the associated types. types is optional and may be any combination of "heal", "hitdice", and "rest", separated by commas. If types is not provided, then all types of healing are prevented.
DMGMULT: n - The bearer of this effect has all of their damage dealt multiplied by n.
HEALMULT: n - The bearer of this effect has all of their healing done multiplied by n.
HEALEDMULT: n, (types) - The bearer of this effect has all of their healing received multiplied by n. types is optional and may be any combination of "heal", "hitdice", and "rest", separated by commas. If types is not provided, then all types of healing are multiplied.


Check it out on The Forge (https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/429/view) or at GitHub (https://github.com/MeAndUnique/BlissfulIgnorance) and please let me know if you have any comments or concerns.
Hope it helps!

If you wish to buy me a coffee (https://ko-fi.com/meandunique), I would be extremely grateful. Though please don't feel any pressure or obligation to do so!

[anathemort]

This is really interesting, thanks for sharing!

[MrDDT]

Very nice, excited to use this. This might really fix some major issues I'm having with some resist functions from the basic FGU settings. So this could be so awesome.

[Aridhro]

Sounds great. Eager to test this.

[nephranka]

Very cool. Looking forward to adding this to the tool kit. Thanks.

[MeAndUnique]

Pushed v1.0.1 which increases load order to resolve a conflict with another extension.

[mattekure]

Request to add additional effect to absorb only 1/2 the damage dealt to implement the Dragon masks in Rise of Tiamat. They have a slightly weird absorption power, and that last clause heals half the damage dealt.

"Damage Absorption. You have resistance against lightning damage. If you already have resistance to lightning damage from another source, you instead have immunity to lightning damage. If you already have immunity to lightning damage from another source, whenever you are subjected to lightning damage, you take none of that damage and regain a number of hit points equal to half the damage dealt of that type."

[MeAndUnique]

Request to add additional effect to absorb only 1/2 the damage dealt to implement the Dragon masks in Rise of Tiamat. They have a slightly weird absorption power, and that last clause heals half the damage dealt.

"Damage Absorption. You have resistance against lightning damage. If you already have resistance to lightning damage from another source, you instead have immunity to lightning damage. If you already have immunity to lightning damage from another source, whenever you are subjected to lightning damage, you take none of that damage and regain a number of hit points equal to half the damage dealt of that type."

Give "ABSORB: 0.5" a whirl :)

[Tenebris]

Hey,

I really enjoy the idea of this extension, but I am getting an error. Full disclosure: I am not using this extension as intended, so feel free to tell me its just not going to work the way I want, and I'll be on my way. I have a tendency to take extensions such as this one and apply them to games I want to run by tweaking them, but I think this one is beyond me.

1. I am using this for a 2e game (I know, but there is enough code cross-compatibility, that most 5e extension work fine on 2e and this is honestly the first time I have had an issue with it).
2. 2e allows me to include damage resistances to armor, which apply towards pcs, which I employ with a numerical value (e.g. RESIST: 5 piercing; RESIST: 4 slashing; RESIST: 2 bludgeoning) which actually works just fine.
3. These effects can be assigned to armor (and weapons), meaning that if a PC swaps armor, their resistances change.
4. I would like to be able to use this extension to ignore some of this resistance by assigning the effects you have (e.g. IGNORERESIST: 2 slashing).

When I add the Effect (IGNORERESIST: 2 slashing), (IGNORERESIST: slashing), and/or update the armor to simple (RESIST: slashing) I receive an error: [287: attempt to compare number with nil] which is:

286 for sDamageType,_ in pairs(tUniqueTypes) do
287 table.insert(aAbsorbed, sDamageType);
288 end
289 table.sort(aAbsorbed);

The only extension that I think might be interfering, if this is just not an issue due to rulesets, is Hackmaster (https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/78/view).

Thanks for taking the time to read and, again, I completely understand if my nonsense is well beyond the scope of this extension.

Cheers!

[MeAndUnique]

Hey,

I really enjoy the idea of this extension, but I am getting an error. Full disclosure: I am not using this extension as intended, so feel free to tell me its just not going to work the way I want, and I'll be on my way. I have a tendency to take extensions such as this one and apply them to games I want to run by tweaking them, but I think this one is beyond me.

1. I am using this for a 2e game (I know, but there is enough code cross-compatibility, that most 5e extension work fine on 2e and this is honestly the first time I have had an issue with it).
2. 2e allows me to include damage resistances to armor, which apply towards pcs, which I employ with a numerical value (e.g. RESIST: 5 piercing; RESIST: 4 slashing; RESIST: 2 bludgeoning) which actually works just fine.
3. These effects can be assigned to armor (and weapons), meaning that if a PC swaps armor, their resistances change.
4. I would like to be able to use this extension to ignore some of this resistance by assigning the effects you have (e.g. IGNORERESIST: 2 slashing).

When I add the Effect (IGNORERESIST: 2 slashing), (IGNORERESIST: slashing), and/or update the armor to simple (RESIST: slashing) I receive an error: [287: attempt to compare number with nil] which is:

286 for sDamageType,_ in pairs(tUniqueTypes) do
287 table.insert(aAbsorbed, sDamageType);
288 end
289 table.sort(aAbsorbed);

The only extension that I think might be interfering, if this is just not an issue due to rulesets, is Hackmaster (https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/78/view).

Thanks for taking the time to read and, again, I completely understand if my nonsense is well beyond the scope of this extension.

Cheers!

Hey, sorry for the delay, I'm finally getting some time to get back in to FG. To be honest I don't know enough about either the 2e system nor the FG ruleset to be able to meaningfully weigh in. Though at the surface, the line 287 in question is likely referring to a different file (or version of the file) since there is no numeric comparison as shown here.

[MeAndUnique]

Just wanted to note that per the conversation in the Constitutional Amendments thread I have added a future feature consideration for supporting partial prevention of healing.

[Slagmoth]

Replied to wrong thread

[houseofdexter]

Ok...Love this extension. It makes Monk's feat -> Slow Fall work like a charm with the addition of Custom Damage Manager https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/122/view.

With the Custom Damage Manager create >falling< damage type.

Create an NPC called Falling and add an Action like ->

10': 4 (1d6) falling damage. 20': 8 (2d6) falling damage. 30': 12 (3d6) falling damage. 40': 16 (4d6) falling damage. 50': 20 (5d6) falling damage. 60': 24 (6d6) falling damage. 70': 28 (7d6) falling damage. 80': 32 (8d6) falling damage. 90': 36 (9d6) falling damage. 100': 40 (10d6) falling damage. 110': 44 (11d6) falling damage. 120': 48 (12d6) falling damage. 130': 52 (13d6) falling damage. 140': 56 (14d6) falling damage. 150': 60 (15d6) falling damage. 160': 64 (16d6) falling damage. 170': 68 (17d6) falling damage. 180': 72 (18d6) falling damage. 190': 76 (19d6) falling damage. 200': 80 (20d6) falling damage.

On your PC add a Slow Fall Effect like -> REDUCE: 20, falling

Would love to be able to do something like -> REDUCE: 5Lvl, falling

[Fingersome]

When I was reading the new race options for Shifters in Monsters of the Multiverse, I was looking at the Wild Hunt subrace.

I was wondering how I could automate a creature ignoring advantage on attack rolls against a target... I couldn't figure out if there was a flag for "this attack has advantage" in the effects system so I just assumed there isn't one.
I thought to myself, "I can probably create a workaround using an aura effect to select for it only triggering when an attacker within 30 feet of the shfiter targets the shifter with an attack, but in order to do that, I'd need to be able to "ignore" attacks made at advantage-"

and then your extension came to mind.


I've had a look at the wiki and I'm pretty sure there is no way to check for "if this attack has advantage / disadvantage do x" using effects atm. If there was, I could just do that.

[MeAndUnique]

A number of users have requested to be able to toss a coin my way so I have created a page for them to do so and added a link to the first post. Please feel no obligation to do so though!

[MeAndUnique]

When I was reading the new race options for Shifters in Monsters of the Multiverse, I was looking at the Wild Hunt subrace.

I was wondering how I could automate a creature ignoring advantage on attack rolls against a target... I couldn't figure out if there was a flag for "this attack has advantage" in the effects system so I just assumed there isn't one.
I thought to myself, "I can probably create a workaround using an aura effect to select for it only triggering when an attacker within 30 feet of the shfiter targets the shifter with an attack, but in order to do that, I'd need to be able to "ignore" attacks made at advantage-"

and then your extension came to mind.


I've had a look at the wiki and I'm pretty sure there is no way to check for "if this attack has advantage / disadvantage do x" using effects atm. If there was, I could just do that.

Hmm, I haven't picked up Monster of the Multiverse yet, though it sounds like case this is better suited to Trigger Me Timbers (https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/598/view); I've added a note for looking closer in future updates.

[Jaegar]

This is an awesome ext.

I was curious if you would consider on planning to make UNHEALABLE work on a long rest from the menu on the CT for npcs and pcs.

[MeAndUnique]

This is an awesome ext.

I was curious if you would consider on planning to make UNHEALABLE work on a long rest from the menu on the CT for npcs and pcs.

Yeah, that is certainly something I can look in to.

[Fingersome]

Another immunity-related monster trait that would be useful to automate is Psychic Mirror, as seen on the stat block for the Star Spawn Hulk.

Psychic Mirror. If the hulk takes psychic damage, each creature within 10 feet of the hulk takes that damage instead; the hulk takes none of the damage.

It would be neat if there was a way to automate that, using an effect. Perhaps in terms of syntax, something like 'MIRROR: psychic, 10' which would grant immunity to psychic damage, and transfer the damage to any other creature within 10 feet of the actor with the effect...?

[MeAndUnique]

Another immunity-related monster trait that would be useful to automate is Psychic Mirror, as seen on the stat block for the Star Spawn Hulk.


It would be neat if there was a way to automate that, using an effect. Perhaps in terms of syntax, something like 'MIRROR: psychic, 10' which would grant immunity to psychic damage, and transfer the damage to any other creature within 10 feet of the actor with the effect...?

Yep, on my radar. Might end up in Constitutional Amendments cause that has better code infrastructure for moving damage between creatures, might end up here because this has better infrastructure for damage type handling. Either way though, the range bit would be accomplished by combining with Aura Effects.

[MeAndUnique]

Just released version 1.1.0 which adds the ability to specify the type of healing for the UNHEALABLE effect and adds new DMGMULT, HEALMULT, and HEALEDMULT effects.

[Jaegar]

Just released version 1.1.0 which adds the ability to specify the type of healing for the UNHEALABLE effect and adds new DMGMULT, HEALMULT, and HEALEDMULT effects.

Doe this now apply to Long Rest? UNHEALABLE

[MeAndUnique]

Doe this now apply to Long Rest? UNHEALABLE

Yup. And if you want it to only apply to long rests you can use "UNHEALABLE: rest". The list on the first post has been updated with info on how to use the other effects as well.

[Jaegar]

Yup. And if you want it to only apply to long rests you can use "UNHEALABLE: rest". The list on the first post has been updated with info on how to use the other effects as well.

You are awesome!

[FGUDM]

When attempting to apply damage I get the following error and no damage is applied.

[ERROR] Handler error: [string "scripts/manager_action_damage_bi.lua"]:332: bad argument #1 to 'match' (string expected, got nil)

[anathemort]

MeAndUnique is currently on vacation. There's a PR waiting for their return with a patch for this here (https://github.com/MeAndUnique/BlissfulIgnorance/pull/1). If you're technically minded you can pull the fixed version until it's published, or disable this ext in the meantime.

[anathemort]

There's a temporary version of this extension you can use by replacing the one from the forge with what you find here:
https://github.com/eryon/BlissfulIgnorance/releases/tag/v1.1.1-rc

It is version 1.1.1-rc and should work until MeAndUnique can verify and accept the changes.

[nephranka]

There's a temporary version of this extension you can use by replacing the one from the forge with what you find here:
https://github.com/eryon/BlissfulIgnorance/releases/tag/v1.1.1-rc

It is version 1.1.1-rc and should work until MeAndUnique can verify and accept the changes.

Nice work!

[Rewe]

Thank you ! <3

[similarly]

Oh, this was driving me insane! I spent close to 3 hours opening and closing various extensions (I have a lot) trying to find the error: turns out I was getting TWO errors. One for Blissful ignorance and one for Constitutional Amendments.

Nice work on the update! But I think I'll just turn it off for now and wait until the update. Appreciate the work, though! Sincerely! Well done.

[MeAndUnique]

Alright folks, I'm back from vacation and have started the process of getting things back under control. Version 1.1.1 of Blissful Ignorance is now live on the Forge and should have everything back up and running as normal!

[nephranka]

Alright folks, I'm back from vacation and have started the process of getting things back under control. Version 1.1.1 of Blissful Ignorance is now live on the Forge and should have everything back up and running as normal!

Welcome back! The reports of your demise have been greatly exaggerated. ;P

[Jaegar]

Alright folks, I'm back from vacation and have started the process of getting things back under control. Version 1.1.1 of Blissful Ignorance is now live on the Forge and should have everything back up and running as normal!
w00t!

[similarly]

Oh, this was driving me insane! I spent close to 3 hours opening and closing various extensions (I have a lot) trying to find the error: turns out I was getting TWO errors. One for Blissful ignorance and one for Constitutional Amendments.

Nice work on the update! But I think I'll just turn it off for now and wait until the update. Appreciate the work, though! Sincerely! Well done.

I turned on both Blissful Ignorance and Constitutional Amendments. Tested it out. No errors this time. Fantastic work!

[jfg1984]

Alright folks, I'm back from vacation and have started the process of getting things back under control. Version 1.1.1 of Blissful Ignorance is now live on the Forge and should have everything back up and running as normal!

And the legends say, that if you find a seashell on the beach and put it to your ear, you can hear the screams of a thousand D&D nerds, calling out for his return to save them from the script errors.

Welcome back, and thank you for the quick turn around. I'll test for the issues I was having before when I get home and report any bugs if there's anything still lingering. Hopefully not though!

[MeAndUnique]

Version 1.1.2 released fixing a bunch of things I broke when attempting to streamline code.

[MeAndUnique]

Just released version 1.1.3 with a minor change that should improve extension compatibility.

[MeAndUnique]

Just released version 1.1.4 with a minor update so the heal icon is shown when damage is absorbed.

[MrDDT]

Thanks for all your work.

[rocketvaultgames]

Any idea what I'm doing wrong with the following? It isn't doubling the damage... removing the "IFT: TYPE(object);" works to double the damage but defeats the purpose.

Siege Monster; IFT: TYPE(object); DMGMULT: 2

The target definitely has "object" for creature type.

[MeAndUnique]

Any idea what I'm doing wrong with the following? It isn't doubling the damage... removing the "IFT: TYPE(object);" works to double the damage but defeats the purpose.

Siege Monster; IFT: TYPE(object); DMGMULT: 2

The target definitely has "object" for creature type.

Unfortunately "object" isn't a recognized creature type in the ruleset, and so it won't work for IFT in general.

[MrDDT]

Any idea what I'm doing wrong with the following? It isn't doubling the damage... removing the "IFT: TYPE(object);" works to double the damage but defeats the purpose.

Siege Monster; IFT: TYPE(object); DMGMULT: 2

The target definitely has "object" for creature type.

Working for me, can you get on discord and give me a screenshot there or here?

EDIT:
After talking to mattvictim, I found why it was working for me. I was using custom. TYPE as M&U said is only used for a limited hardcoded subset of creatures, you can't manually add them.

Likely something SmiteWorks should add IMO.

[BlazingAzureCrow]

Please tell me if I'm misunderstanding the extension, but should "IGNOREIMMUNE: fire" bypass immunity to fire damage? IGNORERESIST works, but IGNOREIMMUNE doesn't seem to be working.

[MrDDT]

Please tell me if I'm misunderstanding the extension, but should "IGNOREIMMUNE: fire" bypass immunity to fire damage? IGNORERESIST works, but IGNOREIMMUNE doesn't seem to be working.

I don't think IGNOREIMMUNE is a coding effect this EXT does.
You can do IGNORETOABSORB instead and would do the effect you want, however, I think it's broken by doing this as it should really do 0 damage, instead of 0 damage and healing.

I think M&U likely should add the coding IGNORETOIMMUNE and it would do what you are saying. However, the IGNOREIMMUNE doesn't work because it's not a coding effect of this EXT.

Are you trying to bypass immunity fully and the creature take full damage? Or you trying to change it to resist only? Or what? Can you give an example of what it's applying to?

[eriktedesco]

I think IGNORE IMMUNE is an operator introduced by one of Kent extension, AutomaticElementalAdept. Hope this will help.

[BlazingAzureCrow]

I don't think IGNOREIMMUNE is a coding effect this EXT does.
You can do IGNORETOABSORB instead and would do the effect you want, however, I think it's broken by doing this as it should really do 0 damage, instead of 0 damage and healing.

I think M&U likely should add the coding IGNORETOIMMUNE and it would do what you are saying. However, the IGNOREIMMUNE doesn't work because it's not a coding effect of this EXT.

Are you trying to bypass immunity fully and the creature take full damage? Or you trying to change it to resist only? Or what? Can you give an example of what it's applying to?

Ah darn. I thought that might be the case. It felt like something that would naturally be included alongside the other effects, but given that it doesn't show up in RAW that's not shocking. I saw that one of the operators you could include for "IGNORE(R)" was IGNORE, and that IMMUNE was used elsewhere in the description in place of IGNORE and made some assumptions from there. I probably just read something wrong.

The example I'm using is for the streamed show I run that has a wealth of original content. There are a few examples in it of damage that cannot be ignored (for meaningless trivia, one example being the lava and flames at the heart of Phlegethos) or reduced, and an NPC was able to ignore resistance/immunity to her fire damage.

Hopefully it's added in the future since it'd be a small but useful thing for homebrew and third-party uses. Hopefully, it wouldn't be too hard to include.

[BlazingAzureCrow]

I think IGNORE IMMUNE is an operator introduced by one of Kent extension, AutomaticElementalAdept. Hope this will help.

I have that but have it disabled. I'll check that out, thank you!

[MrDDT]

Ah darn. I thought that might be the case. It felt like something that would naturally be included alongside the other effects, but given that it doesn't show up in RAW that's not shocking. I saw that one of the operators you could include for "IGNORE(R)" was IGNORE, and that IMMUNE was used elsewhere in the description in place of IGNORE and made some assumptions from there. I probably just read something wrong.

The example I'm using is for the streamed show I run that has a wealth of original content. There are a few examples in it of damage that cannot be ignored (for meaningless trivia, one example being the lava and flames at the heart of Phlegethos) or reduced, and an NPC was able to ignore resistance/immunity to her fire damage.

Hopefully it's added in the future since it'd be a small but useful thing for homebrew and third-party uses. Hopefully, it wouldn't be too hard to include.

You can use IGNORETOABSORB for the same effect currently, just remember it will also bypass ABSORB on a monster also.

[BlazingAzureCrow]

You can use IGNORETOABSORB for the same effect currently, just remember it will also bypass ABSORB on a monster also.

Noted! Thank you very much. It'd still be cool to have the effect, but I doubt I'll encounter scenarios where something immune is also absorbing damage enough that I can't just brute force my way through things.

[MrDDT]

Noted! Thank you very much. It'd still be cool to have the effect, but I doubt I'll encounter scenarios where something immune is also absorbing damage enough that I can't just brute force my way through things.

I'm thinking it's an oversight and likely will get updated when M&U gets time. Only makes sense to have the IMMUNE one in there with the others.

[MeAndUnique]

Well, fwiw, IGNOREIMMUNE is 100% intended to a supported effect, as indicated in the first post; it just appears to have been broken during a recent FG update. I'll get a fix out as soon as I am able.

[MeAndUnique]

Should be fixed in v1.1.5

[MrDDT]

Well, fwiw, IGNOREIMMUNE is 100% intended to a supported effect, as indicated in the first post; it just appears to have been broken during a recent FG update. I'll get a fix out as soon as I am able.

Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't see IGNOREIMMUNE listed in the first post.

Thank you for fixing this, and all the other work you do.

[MeAndUnique]

Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't see IGNOREIMMUNE listed in the first post.

Thank you for fixing this, and all the other work you do.

IGNORE[R] ... where R can be one of ABSORB, IMMUNE, RESIST, or VULN ...
(pay no heed to the typo that used to be there)
;)

[DMLars]

Let me first say I really love this extension! Which is also why I know some things are no longer working. The IGNORE function seems to be inoperative, as well as MAKEVULN. Thanks for all of your hard work and effort. I tested with only this extension loaded in a 5E campaign.

[MrDDT]

Let me first say I really love this extension! Which is also why I know some things are no longer working. The IGNORE function seems to be inoperative, as well as MAKEVULN. Thanks for all of your hard work and effort. I tested with only this extension loaded in a 5E campaign.

Can you show an example? I just tested both these coding in a new campaign with no other exts loaded and both worked.

Placing the effect on my caster PC then targeting a ghost NPC; it did full damage to the ghost who is normally resistance to fire so it would normally take 1/2 fire damage.


IGNORERESIST: fire




Placing the effect on my caster PC then targeting a Ankheg NPC; it did 2x damage to the Ankheg who normally has no resistance or immunity to fire damage.


MAKEVULN: fire

[DMLars]

Ahh yes, a critical mistake on my part. I forgot that the effect was meant to be by the "bearer" not the target. Everything's working good here. Thanks @MrDDT

[MrDDT]

Ahh yes, a critical mistake on my part. I forgot that the effect was meant to be by the "bearer" not the target. Everything's working good here. Thanks @MrDDT

Glad I could help, have a good one.

[DMLars]

I now remember why I went down that path. I was trying to use an AURA to make creatures Vulnerable to necrotic if they got to close to the BBEG. Obviously, that didn't work. Any ideas on how I could incorporate that?

[MrDDT]

I now remember why I went down that path. I was trying to use an AURA to make creatures Vulnerable to necrotic if they got to close to the BBEG. Obviously, that didn't work. Any ideas on how I could incorporate that?

Can you give me the text of what the spell or talent/ability is?

Also lets move over to
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?69965-5E-Aura-Effects-Coding

[KrysalverHellfox]

Having issues with the HEALMULT & HEALEDMULT its not multiplying the amount rolled am I doing something wrong

[MrDDT]

Having issues with the HEALMULT & HEALEDMULT its not multiplying the amount rolled am I doing something wrong

Can you give us the example you using? Screenshot would also be helpful.

[KrysalverHellfox]

Can you give us the example you using? Screenshot would also be helpful.
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[MrDDT]

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That picture is really blurry and even harder to read the white lettering. Can you send a clearer picture?

[KrysalverHellfox]

That picture is really blurry and even harder to read the white lettering. Can you send a clearer picture?

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[BlazingAzureCrow]

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I might be off base here, but it looks like you should have "HEALEDMULT" instead of "HEALMULT"? I haven't tested this part of the extension myself, but I believe HEALMULT is when you want to multiply outgoing healing, and HEALEDMULT is for incoming healing.

[KrysalverHellfox]

I might be off base here, but it looks like you should have "HEALEDMULT" instead of "HEALMULT"? I haven't tested this part of the extension myself, but I believe HEALMULT is when you want to multiply outgoing healing, and HEALEDMULT is for incoming healing.

do the types need to be capital as well

[BlazingAzureCrow]

do the types need to be capital as well

Again, I haven't tested these operators, but generally, all damage/effect types after the colon are lowercase. I think the effect you're looking for here is "HEALEDMULT: 0.5 heal". But again, you'd be within your rights to wait for MrDDT to respond.

EDIT: Just tested it, and having "HEALEDMULT: 0.5" on the creature being healed was all I needed to half the healing. Presumably, "HEALMULT: 0.5" on the creature doing the healing would achieve the same effect.

[MrDDT]

As BlazingAzureCrow is stating

HEALEDMULT - Effects the creature being healed. So if something should take less or more healing, you would want to apply that to them.
HEALMULT - Effects the creature doing the healing, So if something should heal others for more or less than normal, you would apply that onto the caster themself.

[KrysalverHellfox]

Thanks for the help i got it working

[MeAndUnique]

I come by to answer the initial question after getting an email for it and see folks have already got it covered, thanks! :o

[Fingersome]

Is there a way to create an effect with this extension that would reduce the amount a character is healed by? Like, in the same way damage reduction works, but by a specified expression E.G 1d10 + 2 or something like that...? I realise there's HEALMULT if you wanted to reduce healing by a percentage like 0.5 to half all healing, but what about if you just want to reduce it by a set amount...?

[MeAndUnique]

Is there a way to create an effect with this extension that would reduce the amount a character is healed by? Like, in the same way damage reduction works, but by a specified expression E.G 1d10 + 2 or something like that...? I realise there's HEALMULT if you wanted to reduce healing by a percentage like 0.5 to half all healing, but what about if you just want to reduce it by a set amount...?

Nothing at present no. Definitely something I can consider for future development though. The best I can suggest is to use the modifier box in the meantime.

[Tobyqueef]

So the Reduce function says it would stack normally with the regular resist function, essentially creating a 75% damage resistance to for example fire damage if you had RESIST: fire and REDUCE: fire, correct? Although i also see it says in the same line they dont currently stack so is that still a WIP?

[MeAndUnique]

So the Reduce function says it would stack normally with the regular resist function, essentially creating a 75% damage resistance to for example fire damage if you had RESIST: fire and REDUCE: fire, correct? Although i also see it says in the same line they dont currently stack so is that still a WIP?

REDUCE is numeric only, not percentage based. So if a character has both resistance to bludgeoning damage (take half damage) and Heavy Armor Master (reduce bludgeoning damage by 3) they would be able to use both "RESIST: bludgeoning" and "REDUCE: 3, bludgeoning" to correctly process incoming damage.

What doesn't work is when attempting to also use "RESIST: 5, bludgeoning" in the event of having a third ability that is supposed to reduce bludgeoning damage by 5.

[Darth Decisive]

Hey there! Absolutely love your work. Just dropping in to report that a recent update seems to have caused a problem with it!

Whenever an NPC or PC tries to deal damage to a creature of a type it is resistant or immune to, it throws an error and the damage is not applied. Damage of types that they have no resistance to (or of which they are untyped) does not seem to be affected.

[ERROR] Handler error: [string "BlissfulIgnorance:..er_action_damage_bi.lua"]:45: attempt to index upvalue 'rActiveTarget' (a nil value)

I hope this helps! Keep up the incredible work; your extentions are always great!

EDIT: I've actually gone a little deeper and discovered the problem actually stemmed from the Glancing Blows extention by Kael the Adventurer. You've already commented on that, so it seems you're well aware of it! You can probably just disregard this post XD

[MeAndUnique]

Just pushed version 1.1.6 with support for compatibility with Glancing Blows (which should have a matching update in the near future).

[nephranka]

Just a heads up. It looks like this ext is throwing an error on damage rolls in TEST. I figure most wait until it is live but I was there testing some other things.

[BlazingAzureCrow]

Hey there! Absolutely love your work. Just dropping in to report that a recent update seems to have caused a problem with it!

Whenever an NPC or PC tries to deal damage to a creature of a type it is resistant or immune to, it throws an error and the damage is not applied. Damage of types that they have no resistance to (or of which they are untyped) does not seem to be affected.

[ERROR] Handler error: [string "BlissfulIgnorance:..er_action_damage_bi.lua"]:45: attempt to index upvalue 'rActiveTarget' (a nil value)

I hope this helps! Keep up the incredible work; your extentions are always great!

EDIT: I've actually gone a little deeper and discovered the problem actually stemmed from the Glancing Blows extention by Kael the Adventurer. You've already commented on that, so it seems you're well aware of it! You can probably just disregard this post XD

I believe I'm still getting this error despite being up to date with both. I'll do more tests to see if it's something on my end though.

[JuliTutu]

Hi! I don't know if i'm doing something wrong, but I can't make "MAKEVULN: fire" working when the NPC Resist that type. I also have problems with [R1]TO[R2].

Thanks for your work!

[MrDDT]

MAKEVULN
Is only used if they have no resist.
If they have resist you want to use ignore.

[Fingersome]

Would be nice if you could choose Temporary Hit Points as one of the types for UNHEALABLE. I have come across it multiple times where a creature 'cant regain hit points', but UNHEALABLE also forbids them to gain Temporary Hit Points.

[rocketvaultgames]

Working for me, can you get on discord and give me a screenshot there or here?

EDIT:
After talking to mattvictim, I found why it was working for me. I was using custom. TYPE as M&U said is only used for a limited hardcoded subset of creatures, you can't manually add them.

Likely something SmiteWorks should add IMO.

Just wanted to mention in case this helps someone else... I was able to get this working by using: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/45/view to add "object" as a new creature type.

With https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/68/view I'm able to add the effect to Siege Monster entries of NPCs so that the effect is auto-parsed into the CT when the NPC is added.

I also added "falling" as a damage type to stop Heavy Armor Master and monsters' resistance to bludgeoning from nonmagical attacks from reducing falling damage.

[MrDDT]

Just wanted to mention in case this helps someone else... I was able to get this working by using: https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/45/view to add "object" as a new creature type.

With https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/68/view I'm able to add the effect to Siege Monster entries of NPCs so that the effect is auto-parsed into the CT when the NPC is added.

I also added "falling" as a damage type to stop Heavy Armor Master and monsters' resistance to bludgeoning from nonmagical attacks from reducing falling damage.

Nice work, thats good info.

Just FYI you can use Equipped Effects also to auto parse effects and add them onto the NPC in the CT, if you don't know how to do this I can help you.
I find it's easier to do it with EE than AE in this case, but other cases where you making an exact custom item, AE is better. Also AE is better for almost all weapon effects. I wish I could get the Action Only, option into Equipped Effects ext.

[rocketvaultgames]

Nice work, thats good info.

Just FYI you can use Equipped Effects also to auto parse effects and add them onto the NPC in the CT, if you don't know how to do this I can help you.
I find it's easier to do it with EE than AE in this case, but other cases where you making an exact custom item, AE is better. Also AE is better for almost all weapon effects. I wish I could get the Action Only, option into Equipped Effects ext.

In this case I was using this for NPCs (earth elemental, etc.) with Siege Monster as a trait, so the effect should be added right away and always 'on'.

If an item granted an equivalent to Siege Monster (adamantine?), then Equipped Effects and setting it up on the item is the way to go.

If you need it on an NPC and don't want it to always be "on", you can use https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/741/view to have it be an auto-parsed draggable effect in the CT.

[MrDDT]

In this case I was using this for NPCs (earth elemental, etc.) with Siege Monster as a trait, so the effect should be added right away and always 'on'.

If an item granted an equivalent to Siege Monster (adamantine?), then Equipped Effects and setting it up on the item is the way to go.

If you need it on an NPC and don't want it to always be "on", you can use https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/741/view to have it be an auto-parsed draggable effect in the CT.

Well sorta.

First you can set up NPCs with "always on" effects, it's not a big deal and I kinda like doing it that way because you can change the effect as a whole without having to change each NPC that has that feature or similar feature.

Example.
Say you have creatures whom have "Uncanny Defense, you get +2 to all DEX saves and reduce all damage by 5".
So you make an effect using AE to apply this effect coding to all the creatures with this effect. Lets say its 50 of them.
You might have a substandard coding on an item that is like

SAVE: 2 dexterity; RESIST: 5 all

Then lets say in 3 months from now you get a new EXT that allows you better coding on the reduce damage where it's not conflicting with resists. Like BCEG does.


SAVE: 2 dexterity; DMGR: 5 all

So now you have to go back and change all 50 of the NPC (first somehow you have to find them) to the updated coding.
Whereas with EE, you can simply change the name matched effect coding to the updated coding.

It seems like it's not all that common, but it happens quiet often, which is why I like to use 5eAE matched with EE.

It's a much better system to have updatable lists like this, than each item have the effect. This also allows for 3rd party stuff to have the same effects that you use, without having to code the exact effect/spell codings using the EXTs you use.

Also if I didn't want something always on, I would code it to apply the effect but have it started in the "OFF" setting. If it's really common to use.

Also if it's not so common, I would have it parsed the coding effect in the NPC list of actions/bonus actions/etc

[rocketvaultgames]

So now you have to go back and change all 50 of the NPC (first somehow you have to find them) to the updated coding.
Whereas with EE, you can simply change the name matched effect coding to the updated coding.



Somehow didn't realize this was possible... I agree, that is much better to have it all tied back to one effect to be able to change it across all NPCs in one place. Thanks!

[estrolof]

Does HEALMULT support 0.5 as a value? I'm not getting it to do so. But before I go down the rabbit hole of conflicts with other extensions, I figured I should know it decimal values are even supported. :P

EDIT
Oooook. I see. So, HEALMULT is the "healing done by" not "received by" Ok. And REDUCE doesn't reduce "heal", right?

[Rebecca]

Is it possible to use HEALEDMULT: to reduce all healing done?
It does, how do i remove this post?

[rocketvaultgames]

Is there a way with this and/or other extensions to bypass immunity to the poisoned condition? (or any condition). i.e. IGNOREIMMUNE: poisoned

[Farratto]

I've added a function to Blissful Ignorance and am calling it version v1.1.6-rc1. Likely more to come in the future, but nothing currently in the works. Enjoy.

Find it at https://github.com/Farratto/BlissfulIgnorance/releases

v1.1.6-rc1: Added new effect: MAKERESIST. It functions the same as MAKEVULN.

[Farratto]

Announcing Blissful Ignorance v1.1.6-rc2. New modifier tag added: "DMGTYPENEW: types". This does the same thing as DMGTYPE except it removes any other damage types currently in play. For example: If you swing with a battle axe, but have the effect "DMGTYPENEW: fire", the battle axe will do its normal damage, but as fire type, not slashing. With DMGTYPE: fire, the damage will be slashing AND fire.

Get Blissful Ignorance v1.1.6-rc2 at https://github.com/Farratto/BlissfulIgnorance/releases.

[rocketvaultgames]

I'm not sure this is possible and I know it is well off the beaten path for 5e, but I'm looking at existing possibilities for armor as damage reduction and armor penetration for attackers.

I'll just use piercing as an example here.

"REDUCE: 3 piercing" on the defender works great and stacks with "RESIST: piercing".

I don't think there is currently a way to do the following, but if there is I'd love to know:

"MAKEVULN: n piercing" and "MAKERESIST: -n piercing" don't seem to take n into account. Are there any other possibilities I'm missing? Ideally it would be an effect on the attacker that would reduce numerical values (not halving) by a number and (optionally?) be able to turn numerical resistance into numerical vulnerability. i.e.:

Defender has REDUCE: 3 piercing and Attacker has DMGPEN: 6 piercing. This would sum to an extra +3 damage to the Defender

or:

Defender has REDUCE: 3 piercing and Attacker has ARMPEN: 6 piercing. This would sum to an extra +0 damage to the Defender (as it is capped by the REDUCE value on the defender).

Ideally multiple instances of each of these would stack on the same actor (BCEG - Allow Duplicate Effects is ON). So for example, an attacker could get 3 armor penetration from a weapon and 3 more from a magic ring, etc.

[MrDDT]

I'm not sure this is possible and I know it is well off the beaten path for 5e, but I'm looking at existing possibilities for armor as damage reduction and armor penetration for attackers.

I'll just use piercing as an example here.

"REDUCE: 3 piercing" on the defender works great and stacks with "RESIST: piercing".

I don't think there is currently a way to do the following, but if there is I'd love to know:

"MAKEVULN: n piercing" and "MAKERESIST: -n piercing" don't seem to take n into account. Are there any other possibilities I'm missing? Ideally it would be an effect on the attacker that would reduce numerical values (not halving) by a number and (optionally?) be able to turn numerical resistance into numerical vulnerability. i.e.:

Defender has REDUCE: 3 piercing and Attacker has DMGPEN: 6 piercing. This would sum to an extra +3 damage to the Defender

or:

Defender has REDUCE: 3 piercing and Attacker has ARMPEN: 6 piercing. This would sum to an extra +0 damage to the Defender (as it is capped by the REDUCE value on the defender).

Ideally multiple instances of each of these would stack on the same actor (BCEG - Allow Duplicate Effects is ON). So for example, an attacker could get 3 armor penetration from a weapon and 3 more from a magic ring, etc.


Use DMGR from BCEG.
Then you can use an IFT: CUSTOM(DMGR) to detect and bypass it with armor pen

[rocketvaultgames]

Is there any way to have both of the following work on the same actor at the same time?

Make the actor be healed by necrotic damage instead of taking it AND take damage instead of being healed by normal healing?

Independently these both function, but together taking necrotic damage results in being damaged...

ABSORB: necrotic
HEALEDMULT: -1

[MrDDT]

Is there any way to have both of the following work on the same actor at the same time?

Make the actor be healed by necrotic damage instead of taking it AND take damage instead of being healed by normal healing?

Independently these both function, but together taking necrotic damage results in being damaged...

ABSORB: necrotic
HEALEDMULT: -1

M&U isn't working on this anymore.
I currently don't see a way to code this. What would likely be the best option is if added more options to UNHEALABLE and HEALEDMULTI to add in damage options so you can sort out damage types with healing.
Heal, should be a "damage" type really.

Maybe we can get someone to look at it and add those options. I shouldn't be to hard because it already has a few options in there.

[rocketvaultgames]

M&U isn't working on this anymore.
I currently don't see a way to code this. What would likely be the best option is if added more options to UNHEALABLE and HEALEDMULTI to add in damage options so you can sort out damage types with healing.
Heal, should be a "damage" type really.

Maybe we can get someone to look at it and add those options. I shouldn't be to hard because it already has a few options in there.

Right on. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Thanks!

[Farratto]

Blissful Ignorance v1.1.6-rc5 available at https://github.com/Farratto/BlissfulIgnorance/releases

Added support for negative numbers on DMGMULT, DMGEDMULT, HEALMULT, and HEALEDMULT. HEALMULT and HEALEDMULT can now also take damage types to specify what type of damage the healing will be converted to.

example: "HEALEDMULT: -1 necrotic,cold" will convert all healing to the holder to necrotic,cold damage.

[MrDDT]

Very nice, better than I hoped.

[rocketvaultgames]

Very nice, better than I hoped.

Farratto for president! =)

[MrDDT]

Is there any way to have both of the following work on the same actor at the same time?

Make the actor be healed by necrotic damage instead of taking it AND take damage instead of being healed by normal healing?

Independently these both function, but together taking necrotic damage results in being damaged...

ABSORB: necrotic
HEALEDMULT: -1

Now with the update you can code this with.

ABSORB: necrotic
HEALEDMULT: 0 all


The cool new thing is you can now also make it like old D&D where Undead creatures can be healed by Necrotic damage but be hurt by healing damage.

If you want that you would do.

ABSORB: necrotic
HEALEDMULT: -1 radiant

[Tan0]

Hello,
I just saw this extension has been tagged as "unlisted" in my inventory. It means that now all its functionalities are coded in the new version of the core? Including update from farratto?
Thanks

[GunnarGreybeard]

I believe this is being maintained on github by Farratto now. See Message #98 of this thread.


Blissful Ignorance v1.1.6-rc5 available at https://github.com/Farratto/BlissfulIgnorance/releases

[Farratto]

This extension has been rebranded as Resistance is Futile, and is being maintained by Farratto under the MIT license.

Retreive it from the forge at https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/2092/view