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smokebadger
August 8th, 2021, 15:49
Im running Rime of the frost maiden and the groups have a cargo sled and several home bases , so they have alot of stuff they leave on the sled or at home so they dont get encumbered ( Yes as its horror survival we are tracking encumberance and coins).
We cant use the standard party inventory as I need to use that to sell.

Possible solutions
1. What I currently use , make a sled container in each players inventory for them to move things about to
2. Make an NPC called Sled. Not ideal only one player would be able to manage the inventory so too much time messing about instead of just drag and drop.
3. ?

If there was a second party inventory the players could drag stuff back and forth and also see what rope, climbing kits and crap etc is available to grab and where everything is.

Help me fantasy grounds your my only hope

HywelPhillips
August 8th, 2021, 16:10
Sorry I initially posted "just leave it in the party inventory", then noticed you wanted to use that for the sell all.

One way to do it would probably be map parcels plus polymorphism:
https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/157/view
https://forge.fantasygrounds.com/shop/items/156/view

You could set up an NPC for each place the party stash stuff, I think?

But Zaccheus' solution is much more elegant.

Cheers, Hywel

Zacchaeus
August 8th, 2021, 16:24
You can allocate things in the Party Inventory. In the Assignment column type in Sled; My House; My chest or whatever against the items which are in that location and FG will ignore it when it comes to selling stuff or allocating it to a named player.

JohnD
August 8th, 2021, 17:53
The DM could create a treasure parcel and players can drag stuff from their inventory to the Party Sheet then the DM can put them into the parcel.

It is a little unwieldy, but it works.

Klandare
August 8th, 2021, 18:10
You could make PC's for each of the specific things like Sled and House. This way a player can have control of the item and you can even easily make it so that the items on that character is not accessible at times (things in the House can't be used why they are out traveling). It would also make it easy as a DM if you wanted to work out a thief taking things from their house while they are out or other such things.

Klandare
August 8th, 2021, 18:11
You can allocate things in the Party Inventory. In the Assignment column type in Sled; My House; My chest or whatever against the items which are in that location and FG will ignore it when it comes to selling stuff or allocating it to a named player.

that is nice that FG will ignore the item in the party inventory if you have a name assigned on it; but I can imagine that Party Inventory getting extremely unwieldy over time as the party collects more and more items that you would store in locations.

LordEntrails
August 8th, 2021, 18:23
I've used the 'inventory' PC a couple of times. To get different people access you have to have the GM clear ownership but allows for larger lists. I almost always use the existing party inventory and just name locations like Mr Z suggests.

Of course, if there was an extension with improved functionality...

smokebadger
August 8th, 2021, 22:23
Thanks for the reply guys Ill try these out

damned
August 9th, 2021, 05:15
Have Halflings steal the sled and they can start over.

LordEntrails
August 9th, 2021, 05:38
Have Halflings steal the sled and they can start over.
Or have a troupe of Kender befriend the party, nothing more evil than that!

georgelaiacona111
January 11th, 2022, 23:31
Hopefully someone is still looking at this thread. I have noticed that as a GM I create parcels, and all the players can see them. Like all of them, to the point that nosey characters know what Items might be upcoming in the campaign. Useful if, as above, you want them to be able to look into the parcels and create a "bank," but NOT desirable if you don't want anyone to see them. For example, a Rogue "skims" treasure from encounters, and stashes it away. Putting it in the Party Sheet reveals to the others that he's got extra loot, so I created a parcel. But other characters can see the parcels if they look into the appropriate FG tab. So far, only Rogue has been the person to notice this detail, so no harm, no foul yet. But I have other clever players too. If I "don't show inventory to clients," then the jig is up that I'm hiding stuff.
Just curious if anyone has noticed this and found a solution.

Trenloe
January 11th, 2022, 23:49
Standard parcels shouldn't be seen by the players unless you've shared the parcel to all the players or the parcel is in a module that the players have access to.

If you want to share a parcel with just the rogue's player drag the parcel link to the rogue portrait on the desktop when the rogue's plater is connected - this will share that parcel just with that player. Don't use right-click -> share and don't put things like this in a player module.

damned
January 11th, 2022, 23:49
Hi George,

Parcels should only be visible to players once you add them to the Party Sheet - until then they should not be visible. The Party Sheet is also a players tool - once it is in there it is fair game to the players...

Re: your rogue... why does he do this? does this not create discord among your players? it is completely counter productive in my experience.

georgelaiacona111
January 12th, 2022, 00:54
Thanks for the replies!

So, make sure any modules aren't "player loadable." How do I set this for the default campaign since it's not a module I can make player loadable? (That I am aware of.) This is a Parcel that has not ever been shared to the party or any character in the above described manner.

The rogue: nobody seems to be aware of the behaviour. If they are, nothing is said. These are some long-time friends and gamers. Like since 1980 friends and gamers, and we know each other's quirks and game styles. The Rogue will then take his "profit" and spends it in town on the "black market" for goods the party uses, and then sneaks them into "loot" from encounters, or he helps "acquire" party items from the black market at "reduced prices." The player perceives the character as a sort of "benefactor" or pseudo Robin Hood for the group in this way.

LordEntrails
January 12th, 2022, 01:03
The ability for players to load a module is controlled via the Module Activation window; Modules > Activation
Red stop sign means the players can not load it. Green check mark means they have the option to load it.
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But if the parcels were created in the campaign and are not something that comes from a module that won't be applicable. As well, if you unintentionally shared parcels, you can control their share status in the Parcels window. Any parcel that has been shared will have a circle P (shared with all players) or circle S (shared with only some players).
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You can easily find these by clicking on the filter on the bottom right of the window (it defaults to "All"). You can then unshare them via right mouse > 'Stop Sharing Record'

None of these should be shared by default. If you are confident you did not share them, then you should look into any extensions you are using, as one or more of those might have caused the issue.

damned
January 12th, 2022, 01:11
There have been odd glitches where everything in a campaign becomes public.
As per LordEntrails can you check if all parcels or all items are shared with a P?

georgelaiacona111
January 12th, 2022, 01:16
Thanks, LordEntrails. I'll check on the extensions. 5e Attunement Tracker, Coin Weights, and Druid Wild Shapes Implementor. Could be one of those, since the parcel in question was never shared and does not have the "P" mark.

LordEntrails
January 12th, 2022, 16:09
I'm not really familiar with those extensions, but I don't think they would.

Really strange that the parcels that the player(s) can see are not marked shared (P or S). Other tan asking for more information, such as screen shots from the GM and players side, not really sure what else to do here. I'm stumped.

Trenloe
January 12th, 2022, 16:24
For example, a Rogue "skims" treasure from encounters, and stashes it away. Putting it in the Party Sheet reveals to the others that he's got extra loot, so I created a parcel. But other characters can see the parcels if they look into the appropriate FG tab.
Can you confirm exactly where the rogue's player is seeing the parcels please? This will help us work out what's going on and allow us to make relevant recommendations. Thanks.

georgelaiacona111
January 16th, 2022, 22:05
Ok. Now I can't get the issue to repeat. Until I can get it to repeat, I'll let it drop.