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Saeval
April 21st, 2021, 19:30
Any word on when the Advanced Player's Guide is going to come out now that a lot of the Aliens stuff has been released? I know it's been in development or paused for the better part of a year now but at least the APG would be nice to see coming out since it is the most content-rich book so far that I've seen. Having the charts, map, creatures, and relics from the Game Master's Guide would also be a really nice thing to purchase on the store.

Saeval
April 21st, 2021, 19:35
I'll just post this extra question here to keep things simple but has this ruleset been updated to work with Unity? I've seen some stuff on the forums from last year about issues when Unity was still in late Beta but now that it's officially released I'm curious if everything works as intended?

vegaserik
April 23rd, 2021, 14:02
I started to try and put stuff in from the APG and it's really hard to do in this ruleset. The races went in easy, but when I got to Archetypes it became a nightmare. Instead of a blank text field, a new archetype contains a bunch of fields all set to different text types and there's no way to add the Example Archetypes from the book. I can open existing ones from Warrior such as Berserker and it opens a new box, but there's no way to create new ones like Templar from the book. I reported it a couple of months ago as a bug but I haven't heard anything about it yet. I don't think they understood what I was saying. Coming from 5e and putting things in like the Ruins of Symbaroum quick start that's been released a while ago, it's easy to put in new classes/races etc ... this ruleset is difficult to do that.

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kazar86
April 27th, 2021, 21:48
I requested a loto of time but nothing... I fear APG will never arrive. It's ironic that some exstention of coreRpg support Symbaroum with the APG rules XD

Saeval
April 28th, 2021, 09:51
I haven’t heard any word on the APG since last year so I’m going to take a stab at creating a custom module with the new content but I’ll only be able to get so far. I don’t know how to code these rulesets so most of my work will be data entry.

I do wish the character sheet was easier to read at the top of the main page and that you could drag and drop races and occupations onto the sheet for easy reference. Hopefully this ruleset isn’t dead and eventually we’ll get some more updates for quality of life improvements and new content and not just a few tweaks to keep it running with the current version of Fantasy Grounds.

vegaserik
April 28th, 2021, 11:32
I haven’t heard any word on the APG since last year so I’m going to take a stab at creating a custom module with the new content but I’ll only be able to get so far. I don’t know how to code these rulesets so most of my work will be data entry.

I do wish the character sheet was easier to read at the top of the main page and that you could drag and drop races and occupations onto the sheet for easy reference. Hopefully this ruleset isn’t dead and eventually we’ll get some more updates for quality of life improvements and new content and not just a few tweaks to keep it running with the current version of Fantasy Grounds.

It's pretty easy to put stuff in normally, but with the state of the ruleset putting in all the new Archetypes is nearly impossible. See my post above. There doesn't seem to be a way to put in the Example Archetypes - it opens a new box when you click on them with their info, but there's no way I see to add new ones. Granted it's just info so you could copy/paste each one into a story entry, but I like everything neatly in it's own box lol

Ankhmahor
May 2nd, 2021, 12:00
Not all hope is lost. I raised the subject a few times but essentially they are focusing on Foundry now. However there are few guys still working on FG rulesets so eventually the APG will be out.

Saeval
May 2nd, 2021, 16:18
If they’ve moved on to developing content for another company I wish they would have said as much, or said anything. I haven’t heard a peep from a developer here which makes me think this ruleset is dead which is a shame. I hope they find someone more active on FG to take over if the original developer(s) want to move on to making content for Foundry.

vegaserik
May 2nd, 2021, 19:04
I just wish they'd clean up the create formatting, I can create my own APG stuff pretty easily. But at this point I've given up on this ruleset and put in the Ruins of Symbaroum 5e edition quick start that has a few of the races and classes in it. The 5e version will get a full release on Foundry by backing the kickstarter. I like Foundry, but for 5e FG can't be beat.

Saeval
May 2nd, 2021, 19:07
I stopped playing 5e because I got bored with the system, I really liked the system for this and I was hoping it would have a little more support as an official ruleset. I guess I’ll go back to PF2e and some of the various other community rulesets.

I’ve invested a lot in Fantasy Grounds content which is why I’m not interested in learning foundry and I don’t like the bare bones approach of Roll20.

Simpe
May 3rd, 2021, 06:03
Hi,

I've been buzy with moving to a house, doing the ALIEN & Vaesen rulesets and also working some overtime + some other projects that I also have. So unfortunately time has been very sparse with further development on this ruleset. There's still hope though, we're looking this way once we're done with some new features for another ruleset.

Cheers,
Simon

Ankhmahor
May 3rd, 2021, 14:42
Thank you, Simon!

So here it is guys the plan for the Free League rulesets: Alien, Vaesen and then Symbaroum update.
I can only assume there isn't a strong business case to get more hands on deck. Otherwise we would have already seen all the books here. I can understand that.
So unless there are volunteers to help out we can only wait... ;) ;)

Saeval
May 3rd, 2021, 16:40
That’s good to hear! Real life setbacks suck but I’m glad to hear things are moving forward across the board. I’m looking forward to seeing some of the updates planned for Aliens and Symbaroum.

When you get around to adding more updates to Symbaroum it might be a good idea to alter how you do class and archetype data so we can add new stuff (or even homebrew content) more easily on the GM side. Also the main information section at the top of the character sheet is a little hard to read and could use some higher contrast for some of us sight-impaired people lol
Being able to drop links up there for the races and class info would be super handy, even if it doesn’t auto-populate the info just having the link to it up there where you put the data is good.

I’ll post a few more quality of life improvements ideas in a new thread so we can gather some ideas from people about how some things might be easier or better for the ruleset

vegaserik
May 4th, 2021, 15:42
I'd love to see the formatting issues taken out for Archetypes, Bold and Italicize working, a place to add the example archetypes for new books. I can click on Berserker for example, and it opens a new window for the info ... but if I wanted to put in Templar for example from the APG ... there's no way to do it currently using the same format. The Promised Land doesn't have story, npc's, encounters, etc ... only a Reference Guide and the Pregens.

Valyar
May 4th, 2021, 16:04
I'd love to see the formatting issues taken out for Archetypes, Bold and Italicize working, a place to add the example archetypes for new books. I can click on Berserker for example, and it opens a new window for the info ... but if I wanted to put in Templar for example from the APG ... there's no way to do it currently using the same format. The Promised Land doesn't have story, npc's, encounters, etc ... only a Reference Guide and the Pregens.
Formatting issues and updated module content is easy fix and I am sure will be done when some refactoring work starts. The data model on the other hand might be more complex... the big problem of Symbaroum is that the system is not that simple as D&D for example that will allow easy way to do data entry without doing back-end coding.