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Talonmaster
March 7th, 2021, 16:43
I want to run a 'maze' style adventure using dynamic lighting. But part of the issue of doing so is that as the players explore the map, FG will 'save' what they've explored so they can easily plot their paths to and fro as they go along, spoiling the maze.

Is there a way to disable this? Is there an option for FG to automatically remask (hide) areas of the map that are no longer directly visible to the players? Other than me manually clicking "reset FOW" on every token after it moves I mean?

Moon Wizard
March 7th, 2021, 17:10
Currently, there is no way to disable FoW; though we have discussed the possibility of making an option for that in the future.

Regards,
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Zacchaeus
March 7th, 2021, 18:09
For this kind of situation I''d use the mask rather than LoS. It will mean remasaking areas they've been to of course so resetting LoS may well be just as easy a solution.

Kelrugem
March 7th, 2021, 18:21
I concur, this would be indeed a nice option to set :)

LordEntrails
March 7th, 2021, 21:25
So let me give you some thoughts because on FGC I did something similar when running the Undermountain.

In the beginning I wanted a very old school feel. And here I did not even let the players see the big map, I only showed maps for individual rooms/areas for battles and such. For navigating, I would verbally describe the hallways, and make them map it with graph paper and pencils etc. This was actually fun for all of us for awhile. And I actually have incorporated those hand-drawn maps (with some errors!) into treasure maps I used with later adventurers. But it gets tedious after awhile (~20 four-hour sessions).

We then moved on to me showing them the master map, and revealing (via mask) the parts that they moved through. It changed the 'flavor' of the campaign. Put less emphasis on the unknown and the sense of getting lost, and gave us more time for combat and exploring the unknown/undiscovered.

In the end, I enjoy both methods, just make sure your players are in for the way you are going to run it, and don't hesitate to change it if people are tired of one-way.

Griogre
March 7th, 2021, 22:37
I did something similar to LordEntrails with FGC in Undermountain and Dungeon Under the Mountain which both have teleport traps and tricks. I had the *players* create their map from me describing the area ("You are in a corridor, and 50' away is a wall, T-intersection... Room 30' x 40', one door in the middle of the north wall... stuff) and I had them use shared tokens for different lengths of walls and doors so multiple players could place the walls. I found it was actually faster in some cases since multiple players were building the map instead of just me. They made the normal mistakes and were fooled by the teleport traps but the map still did its job and allow them to get from one place to another though they never did really always have knowledge of what the "real" floor layout was.

The problem we ran into was we eventually ended up with thousands of tokens on the map and sometimes the tokens would lose orientation. I haven't tried this approach in FGU but it's likely still viable on reasonably small areas if you think you are just going to use the mask instead of LOS anyway.

Edit I found an old screenshot of this:

*Neuro*
March 8th, 2021, 06:57
Yes, would be a nice option to have only dynamic lighting and never reveal the map, save for the lighting.

This would make easier for GMs to play in labyrinths as players will have to recall the map...

Griogre
March 8th, 2021, 07:33
Depending on the size of the maze another option is running it theater of the mind. Funny that Undermountain came first to my mind when I read this thread, but I also recently used theater of the mind to a mist filled area of caves an passages with visibility of 10 or 20 feet.

LordEntrails
March 8th, 2021, 15:27
Yes, would be a nice option to have only dynamic lighting and never reveal the map, save for the lighting.

This would make easier for GMs to play in labyrinths as players will have to recall the map...
Add it to the wish list if you want it considered :)
https://fgapp.idea.informer.com/

Nylanfs
March 8th, 2021, 16:16
Always make right turns... And chalk all intersections.

Griogre
March 8th, 2021, 20:32
And kill those imps following behind changing the chalk marks....