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warlord343
March 3rd, 2021, 19:12
in the world of table top i thought ppl would be more welcoming i guess i was wrong all i want is to play dnd and i cant find anyone to let me join it makes me not even want to anymore why have this if one cant even find ppl to play with
:hurt::hurt:

Trenloe
March 3rd, 2021, 19:16
Moved to the Tavern forum for general discussion.

Sorry you're having issues finding a game. It can definitely take a while to find a group that you fit into. Keep trying and have patience. If a group isn't welcoming and not working for you don't waste time - let them know, without drama, that it's not for you and just move on and keep looking.

LordEntrails
March 3rd, 2021, 19:41
It is a challenge. Even in 5E there are far more players than their are DMs willing to run games, meaning it takes players time to find a game and sometimes they can't.

If you are up for it, consider starting your own group. Set out the expectation that you are not going to DM all the time. You will run the first adventure, but someone else has to step up to run the second. Make sure they commit to doing so, and perhaps that they even know what they are going to run.

A good discussion on this approach is here; https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/entry.php?241-How-to-Build-a-Successful-Long-term-Gaming-Group

LordEntrails
March 3rd, 2021, 19:43
Oh, and another good way to get involved is by signing up for online cons or the Adventurer's League. Those are first come first serve, and many are free. IT gets you known by other folks, which will often get you invites to private games.

warlord343
March 3rd, 2021, 19:54
well thank u

GunnarGreybeard
March 3rd, 2021, 20:07
Most groups tend to fill up quickly and then may not have any turnover/dropouts. For example, my group has been together for over a full year now and we haven't needed to fill a vacancy. Keep looking and as the others mentioned, and check out the various Cons that may come about. I would also add to look for one-shots that may interest you, even for other systems since many GM's run games using more than one system.

Neovirtus
March 3rd, 2021, 20:35
I recommend the FG Pick Up Group Discord (fgpug.com) and Sleeper Island west marches style game (https://sleeperisland.eu/) for people who don't have an active group. Both don't require long term commitment, and so you can hop into a session. Then if you find a good group there it's easier to turn it into something more permanent.

sciencephile
March 3rd, 2021, 20:59
Well, from the other side of the fence (The DM/GM), I have found that it can be difficult to recruit people from any one source. You may want to look at various sources to try to find a game, such as:

* The Fantasy Grounds forums - there is the Looking for Group thread
* Fantasy Grounds also has a Discord server and there is a similar thread there for players looking for games and DMs looking for players
* There are also Discord gaming groups that are trying to build a bank of players. For instance, there is one called The Oasis that has a number of players and DMs and they seem to recruit on a fairly regular basis.

If you are familiar with Venn Diagrams, I attached an image of what I see the postings coming from.

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Garmorn
March 3rd, 2021, 22:19
Well, from the other side of the fence (The DM/GM), I have found that it can be difficult to recruit people from any one source. You may want to look at various sources to try to find a game, such as:

* The Fantasy Grounds forums - there is the Looking for Group thread
* Fantasy Grounds also has a Discord server and there is a similar thread there for players looking for games and DMs looking for players
* There are also Discord gaming groups that are trying to build a bank of players. For instance, there is one called The Oasis that has a number of players and DMs and they seem to recruit on a fairly regular basis.

If you are familiar with Venn Diagrams, I attached an image of what I see the postings coming from.

44506

Thanks for posting this. I am planning on starting group using FGU around April or May. Trying to get used to FG as I have never played on line before. It is far different from the 20+ years of running a live game.

OP let me know by private message what you are looking for and I will keep you in mind when I am ready to run.

similarly
March 4th, 2021, 01:34
The best places to find groups:
FG Forums, Looking for Player (LFP) subforum.:
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?40-LFG-Looking-for-Group

FG Discord (LFP, LFPG channels):
https://discord.gg/fFpbv3Kh

For people in Australia, NZ, Oceania and West Asia, I highly recommend:
The Filthy Pig Inn and Tavern Discord:
https://discord.gg/tMTS9YcQ

The Filthy Pig has an "adventurers wanted" channel.
I live in Japan, and as a DM, I found a group pretty easily there. One player and I are in Japan, the rest are in Australia, and they're an awesome group to play with.

Look for your time zone.

When you write a "Looking for Group" announcement, here's some advice.
MUST HAVE:
VTT (FGC or FGU or other).
Game and System (example, D&D 5e)
Time Zone or location (for example, I'm UTC +9, Japan). My discord name also has my UTC time zone.
Available or preferred days and times.

GOOD IDEA to HAVE:
Write a little about you. What's your gaming background? Are you absolutely NEW to D&D and FGU (and some DMs ARE looking for new people), or do you have years of experience? What kind of game are you looking for? Are you looking for serious, silly, dungeon crawls, heavy on roleplaying.

You'll get picked faster, I think, if DMs have an idea early on of what kind of player you are and what you're looking for in a game.

damned
March 4th, 2021, 12:46
Often the best place to find a group is to start one and be the GM.
Some estimates suggest there are 30 players to each GM.

similarly
March 4th, 2021, 14:32
That's very true. As a DM, I can find players pretty easily.

*Neuro*
March 4th, 2021, 16:22
in the world of table top i thought ppl would be more welcoming i guess i was wrong all i want is to play dnd and i cant find anyone to let me join it makes me not even want to anymore why have this if one cant even find ppl to play with
:hurt::hurt:

warhorn.net do some Adventurers League stuff.

Trenloe
March 4th, 2021, 16:33
All good feedback here.

Looking back through the OP's other 5 posts in various threads, they were directly offered places or a chance to sign on, but they had to communicate with the GM via PM or outside of the thread (and that was made clear in the thread). I don't know if @warlord343 did follow up. But that's a 40% direct response rate, which is pretty good to be honest...

Neovirtus
March 4th, 2021, 17:47
Often the best place to find a group is to start one and be the GM.
Some estimates suggest there are 30 players to each GM.

I went from not playing D&D in years, to having 2 active groups and multiple other offers to play that I had to turn down due to time constraints. All because I offered to DM. The best part? Now 3 or 4 years later I much prefer being a DM to being a player. Being a player is fun, and a good change of pace, but as a DM you get to do a lot more "playing" per session. I know that's not universal, but I highly recommend every player try DM'ing. And give it a good long time to get over the initial learning curve, because once you do, it can be ton more fun then you realized.

The Decepticon
March 4th, 2021, 20:52
Warlord did reach out to me as I was looking for people to play in my campaign. I made everyone fill out an application and received over 10 responses back including his. Unfortunately, he didn't make the cut. He messaged me on Discord and I couldn't get back to him right away due to being at work and in meetings. When I was able to get to it that evening the message would not go through, letting him know he didn't make the cut.

That is on me not letting him know sooner. Patience is the key and to keep trying.

Jiminimonka
March 4th, 2021, 21:14
Warlord did reach out to me as I was looking for people to play in my campaign. I made everyone fill out an application and received over 10 responses back including his. Unfortunately, he didn't make the cut. He messaged me on Discord and I couldn't get back to him right away due to being at work and in meetings. When I was able to get to it that evening the message would not go through, letting him know he didn't make the cut.

That is on me not letting him know sooner. Patience is the key and to keep trying.

There is a cut for being able to play D&D?

sciencephile
March 4th, 2021, 21:21
Of course not... everyone who asks to play gets to do so. Doesn't matter if the table has 6 players or 10 or 30... no problem.

Come on. We all know what he meant.

*Neuro*
March 5th, 2021, 09:14
People should have more respect of people that GM for free using 4 hours of their time and maybe paying entirely for dmsguild or FG modules and have people have fun playing in a story.

Never forget guys that GMs are doing a lot of work.

And I mean A LOT.

Ok GMs have a passion in doing this, but it is important to respect the time they pour into the games.

JonStormbringer
March 5th, 2021, 13:40
I started playing online last May, 2020. I am almost exclusively a DM/GM with over 30 years experience. One of the differences I've found between online vs face to face is that I have experienced a lot more player turnover playing online. I don't know if other DM's have experienced the same thing or not. The first thing I did, was blame myself. My game must not be good enough to keep their attention. However, after talking with players, including asking departing players for honest critique, I found the opposite. It wasn't the game, it was just life getting in the way. Our group plays at kind of an odd time/day. So when I first began recruiting, I would take anyone that applied on a first come, first served bases. However, as we suffered through a lot of turnover, I realized I needed to be a little more selective in how I was recruiting for new players--keeping in mind that I, as DM, am looking for a core group of consistent players. I like to build epic story lines that feature character backstories in the main plotline. It's difficult to do that with high turnover. In short, developing a consistent group of players is very important to me. So I adjusted my recruiting style and have become a little more selective in players I choose to add to the table. Some of the things I, personally, am looking for (Posted in the hopes this helps other players looking for their own groups):

1. Someone that gives me an idea of their experience level with the game and Fantasy Grounds. I love to have new players, but if I know the applicants experience level, it shapes the conversation moving forward.
2. If you ask me what the other group members are playing, it sends me a message that you are willing to be a team player.
3. Tell me a little about yourself. I'm not asking for a biography here, but game related info. What types of games do you like, what type of character do you enjoy playing. What's your favorite setting...etc.
4. If you were to fill out the templet presented here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?25750-Template-for-Player(s)-Looking-for-Group-Listings, as far as I'm concerned you'd be a step up above everyone else.

Once I have picked a candidate, I ask them for a time to jump onto discord and have a chat. This is where I go over the campaign world, talk about our house rules and kind of give an abbreviated synopsis of what we're doing in the campaign right now. This is really the best opportunity for me as GM and the player to get a feel for each other. It's just as much about the player determining if s/he fits into our game as it is about us looking at the player for a match. If this session goes well for both of us, I'll offer the prospective player a seat at the table.

The Decepticon
March 5th, 2021, 15:59
I started playing online last May, 2020. I am almost exclusively a DM/GM with over 30 years experience. One of the differences I've found between online vs face to face is that I have experienced a lot more player turnover playing online. I don't know if other DM's have experienced the same thing or not. The first thing I did, was blame myself. My game must not be good enough to keep their attention. However, after talking with players, including asking departing players for honest critique, I found the opposite. It wasn't the game, it was just life getting in the way. Our group plays at kind of an odd time/day. So when I first began recruiting, I would take anyone that applied on a first come, first served bases. However, as we suffered through a lot of turnover, I realized I needed to be a little more selective in how I was recruiting for new players--keeping in mind that I, as DM, am looking for a core group of consistent players. I like to build epic story lines that feature character backstories in the main plotline. It's difficult to do that with high turnover. In short, developing a consistent group of players is very important to me. So I adjusted my recruiting style and have become a little more selective in players I choose to add to the table. Some of the things I, personally, am looking for (Posted in the hopes this helps other players looking for their own groups):

1. Someone that gives me an idea of their experience level with the game and Fantasy Grounds. I love to have new players, but if I know the applicants experience level, it shapes the conversation moving forward.
2. If you ask me what the other group members are playing, it sends me a message that you are willing to be a team player.
3. Tell me a little about yourself. I'm not asking for a biography here, but game related info. What types of games do you like, what type of character do you enjoy playing. What's your favorite setting...etc.
4. If you were to fill out the templet presented here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?25750-Template-for-Player(s)-Looking-for-Group-Listings, as far as I'm concerned you'd be a step up above everyone else.

Once I have picked a candidate, I ask them for a time to jump onto discord and have a chat. This is where I go over the campaign world, talk about our house rules and kind of give an abbreviated synopsis of what we're doing in the campaign right now. This is really the best opportunity for me as GM and the player to get a feel for each other. It's just as much about the player determining if s/he fits into our game as it is about us looking at the player for a match. If this session goes well for both of us, I'll offer the prospective player a seat at the table.

I totally agree to this approach. I had the people who were interested fill out an application, just to narrow it down. I don't expect something that takes 15 minutes to fill out as most of it was multiple choice, but the 2 questions I had that were to tell me about yourself and why you want to be in this campaign I was running, I expect some thoughtful answers - not a one word answer.

If I am going to be putting in time to make sure you are going to have a good experience I want to make sure you are a fit for the group.

charmov
March 8th, 2021, 18:12
You can try the subreddit r/lfg. Lots of randos, some end up in r/rpghorrorstories. But this is like the entire internet looking for a game. Listings are ruleset specific but not necessarily platform specific. Be prepared to play on vtts not Fantasy grounds. Good luck!

Vam
March 8th, 2021, 23:42
I almost posted here looking for players last year, but then decided to post on Facebook instead and see if any friends wanted to play. That worked out, and now I get to hang out with some old friends once a week. Then I started a campaign with my workmates during lunch break on Fridays, so that we could be social during lock down. That's gone well. Then one of my players started a campaign and I was invited to play. Now I'm in three active campaigns!