Problems with Skills

[ruedas]

Hi not sure if i am being obtuse again but anyway: I find that when setting a character skills that CREDIT, despite being set to default zero, always gets either 50 or 9 starting points which are deducted from either personal or occupation, leaving a negative number, there does not seem to be a way to zero these numbers, as in you can backspace them away but when you move fields they come back, CRED is a central part of Gaslight adventures and therefore it is very important that it is possible to set and track it accurately. Is this planned behaviour?

Also could a much more modifiable sheet be made available?

Thanks


Ruedas

[damned]

Credit Rating is usually set by Occupation. If you look at the occupations they list a min and max Credit Rating and so we assign the min rating as your starting point and make the spend.

As to making the sheet more modifiable - that tends to break automation which affects far more people. It is difficult to accommodate everyones particular ways of playing. Set the appropriate Credit Rating in the Occupation - you may even have to create a new occupation if needs different values.

[ruedas]

do you mean this tab? 38627 if so then it is Charm that is given a minimum and maximum value and Charm is not the same as Credit or fast talk, would making the actual occupations copyable break the animation too?

As far as I am concerned Charm is an unnecessary addition to the skills list, is it possible to remove it?

Oddly changing Charm in that tag to 0 0 does reduce Credit to 0 while leaving Charm with 15?

as in this shot38628 you see I have reduced the Charm yet on the Skill sheet it remains at 15 while Credit is now Zero

Thanks for your help Damned

[esmdev]

Not sure about the rest but if you delete a skill from the era you are playing in the skill won't show up on the character sheet.

Be sure to delete item while in edit mode as the other delete option takes out the whole era which is annoying.

[ruedas]

Not sure about the rest but if you delete a skill from the era you are playing in the skill won't show up on the character sheet.

Be sure to delete item while in edit mode as the other delete option takes out the whole era which is annoying.

Brilliant, yes of course I did delete the whole Era but nothing was lost I just started another campaign and now I can get rid of Charm, thanks esmdev that has made things a bit easier

[damned]

Sorry something else is wrong here.
That field in Occupations that is (incorrectly) showing Charm for you (correctly) reads Credit Rating for me.

Are you on FGU or FGC?
Are you on Live or Test?
Can you post the chat window showing CoreRPG and Call of CThulhu versions?

[ruedas]

Hi Damned, FGC, live as I don't know how to test, here is the log 38634 and more things are wrong now,

[esmdev]

Hi Damned, FGC, live as I don't know how to test, here is the log 38634 and more things are wrong now,

Try turning off the translation extension, it isn't really needed unless you are using it to specifically change things programmatically.

[damned]

Yes please unload the translation - Im pretty sure you have an error of some sort in there.

[ianmward]

If you have modified the Era, it is possible that you accidentally selected the Charm skill to be that Era's equivalent of Credit Rating. This ability to change the skill was added for Dark Ages or Invictus where Status is used instead.

[ruedas]

Hi Ian and Damned and esmedev okay so last situation was also that all skill options were lost from the set up tab, opening a blank drop down, I turned the translation off deleted all campaigns and started again, ok so now it works, but deleting Charm from the Era does not affect set up in any way. During this I have tried to make a few quite minor alterations in order to adapt the ruleset to my existing TT campaign. The result has been pretty disappointing I will list here the things I still require and can you tell me if they are doable without me spending hours on it.
1/ Removal of Charm from the Character Sheet and skills list. Even if you remove it from the Era it still appears in the set up tab as an option( I see that for some reason Artillery and Brawl are removable why not make everything removable?)
2/ Ideally the addition of Social Class as a rolled stat, this makes the choosing of an occupation a lot more fun and is central to the concept of the Golden Dawn Book.
With these two I think I can rejig the skills and occupations sufficiently to make the adaptation.

Thanks for your help

[damned]

Im still quite unclear what you are doing in your first para or point 1.

2. You cant just Add a Stat. There is a whole bunch of code that goes in behind the scenes for that.
Most stats also impact other things, this doesnt magically happen it has to be coded for.

From what I can tell Golden Dawn was written for the 5th Edition - it wasnt written for 7th edition.

[ruedas]

Ok never mind probably not worth all this hassle, i will seek a different route

[ianmward]

You can create an Era with just the skills you want and make sure that the campaign Era option is set to that Era before creating the character.
When the character is created, the skill list is initialised from the current Era and will be correct.

38654

As Damned says, adding a new rolled attribute is not so simple. The only thing I can suggest is creating a skill and manually rolling the value and putting it in. I don't know if that would be acceptable.

Ian


Hi Ian and Damned and esmedev okay so last situation was also that all skill options were lost from the set up tab, opening a blank drop down, I turned the translation off deleted all campaigns and started again, ok so now it works, but deleting Charm from the Era does not affect set up in any way. During this I have tried to make a few quite minor alterations in order to adapt the ruleset to my existing TT campaign. The result has been pretty disappointing I will list here the things I still require and can you tell me if they are doable without me spending hours on it.
1/ Removal of Charm from the Character Sheet and skills list. Even if you remove it from the Era it still appears in the set up tab as an option( I see that for some reason Artillery and Brawl are removable why not make everything removable?)
2/ Ideally the addition of Social Class as a rolled stat, this makes the choosing of an occupation a lot more fun and is central to the concept of the Golden Dawn Book.
With these two I think I can rejig the skills and occupations sufficiently to make the adaptation.

Thanks for your help

[ruedas]

You can create an Era with just the skills you want and make sure that the campaign Era option is set to that Era before creating the character.
When the character is created, the skill list is initialised from the current Era and will be correct.

38654

As Damned says, adding a new rolled attribute is not so simple. The only thing I can suggest is creating a skill and manually rolling the value and putting it in. I don't know if that would be acceptable.

Ian

tried that and charm still appeared in the set up window for character creation, can I make this work? Probably. Is it worth all the time, no not at this stage.

So I got a refund for the Mod, thanks guys

PS gonna see if the 6E ruleset is any better, unless anyone thinks the Basic would be better for me?

[ianmward]

Sorry you couldn’t make it do what you wanted.

Just out of interest, what do you mean by “charm still appeared in the set up window for character creation”?

What is the set up window for character creation?


tried that and charm still appeared in the set up window for character creation, can I make this work? Probably. Is it worth all the time, no not at this stage.

So I got a refund for the Mod, thanks guys

PS gonna see if the 6E ruleset is any better, unless anyone thinks the Basic would be better for me?