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AzraelofAvagana
August 10th, 2020, 08:36
Thanks for taking the time to read this,

I am at my wits end here trying to help my player. He has connected to my sessions before, and we changed nothing on our respective ends. He still has the firewall rule enabled to allow connections to port 1802. He's gone to canyouseeme.org and it says the connection times out, but I had him run a commandprompt patch trace and it went through. I know it's not a me issue as other players have connected, and since he hasn't changed anything since the last time he connected except for downloading 3.3.11 I know it's not a wrong patch issue.

The only thing I can figure is it's either his ISP blocking him (he has Cox) or his router that had no issue before is blocking the port. Any ideas?

V/R

Azrael

Trenloe
August 10th, 2020, 08:40
Welcome to the FG forums. Sorry you're having issues.

Are you using FGC or FGU?

Doing a check via canyouseeme.org only applies to the GM, as only the GM needs connectivity on port 1802 (for FG Classic).

Does this apply to you (the GM): https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?53461-Comcast-XFinity-Cox-and-Shaw-Communications-Users-Important

AzraelofAvagana
August 10th, 2020, 09:35
Trenloe,

Thanks for the response. We use FGC. I have xfinity and already found how to disable my ISPs protection so players can join. He joined a session two weeks ago, so unless Cox blocked it for him in that time frame I don't know if that's the issue. How would he check to see if Cox is blocking it for him? That page only seems to have the instructions for xfinity.

V/R

Azrael

Trenloe
August 10th, 2020, 09:46
Thanks for the response. We use FGC. I have xfinity and already found how to disable my ISPs protection so players can join. He joined a session two weeks ago, so unless Cox blocked it for him in that time frame I don't know if that's the issue. How would he check to see if Cox is blocking it for him? That page only seems to have the instructions for xfinity.
As that page mentions - the block is not a one off, it refreshes every 30 days. So you need to keep granting access.

Cox uses the same base product as XFinity, but it'll probably just be a different interface. I believe it's still called "Advanced Internet Security". So look for that in your Cox account/app.

Kwagz92
August 10th, 2020, 10:25
Trenloe,

I'm the player in question in this forum. I'm unable to locate this information in my Cox account online or through the App. I didn't need to mess with my cox app prior to this. My pathways through my firewall are still good, I've disabled my firewall and router security. I'm getting a "success" when i test the connection but still unable to connect.

Trenloe
August 10th, 2020, 12:54
Welcome to the FG forums Kwagz92!

As I mentioned above, players don't need to do any port forwarding, or unblocking of ports on their side. The "success" in a test is also only for a GM.

Sorry, I missed that the GM is on Xfinity. The GM should check that XFinity Advanced Internet Security is not blocking your connection. Even if it's been allowed in the past, they will need to double-check again.

AzraelofAvagana
August 10th, 2020, 23:02
Trenloe,

I've had the xfi advanced security completely disabled for every session. It's not able to block him, or any other player. Sorry I thought that I made that clear in my second post. There's obviously some connection issue between me and him specifically. No other player has had this sort of issue joining me, and he was able to connect to another GM that helped him last night when I logged off.

V/R

Azrael

damned
August 11th, 2020, 00:01
Hi Azrael

Can you ask the player who cant connect to post a tracert to your GM IP address? Have one or two layers who can connect should do the same.
This will give us a better picture of where the issue might be occurring.

Kwagz92
August 11th, 2020, 00:13
Damned, here you go.


1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.3.96.1
3 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms 100.126.4.184
4 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms 100.126.4.92
5 13 ms 14 ms 15 ms dalsbprj01-ae1.0.rd.dl.cox.net [68.1.2.109]
6 14 ms 12 ms 13 ms be-207-pe03.1950stemmons.tx.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.229.65]
7 16 ms 16 ms 13 ms be-12495-cr02.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.193]
8 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms ae-79-ar01.bearcreek.tx.houston.comcast.net [68.86.92.62]
9 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae-1-rur02.grant.tx.houston.comcast.net [68.85.247.114]
10 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms lag-2-1-acr01.grant.tx.houston.comcast.net [96.110.157.182]
11 28 ms 25 ms 25 ms c-76-30-154-218.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [76.30.154.218]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\kyle6>

damned
August 11th, 2020, 03:32
Are you able to connect to other FGC GMs?

Kwagz92
August 11th, 2020, 03:37
yes, i was able to connect to your table top last night.

damned
August 11th, 2020, 03:40
Azrael,

Was Advanced Security active the first time Kwagz92 tried to connect?
If so he may somehow still be blocked in there?
Kwagz92 can you see if you can get your router to grab another IP address?
You might have to call Cox and ask for their help.

Kwagz92
August 11th, 2020, 04:02
Yes, he's always had advanced security disabled while we play. He's reset his gateway and everything else in between.

damned
August 11th, 2020, 05:13
Yes, he's always had advanced security disabled while we play. He's reset his gateway and everything else in between.

What do you think might be stopping it?

Others can connect.
You can connect to me.
You can reach his WAN IP in the tracert.
Odds are he hasnt always had advanced security disabled while we play. Odds are he has done that since he found out it blocks FG.
Im wondering if you are still in a block list and the software just isnt showing that.
Thats why Im suggesting you see if you can get your local IP to change - not on your PC, on your Router.
It might be as simple as turning it off for 10mins and back on, but you might need your ISP to force it.

Thats my best guess based on what we do know.

Trenloe
August 11th, 2020, 08:58
I don't have advanced security on my ISP, but in the initial discussions it was mentioned that it wasn't possible to disable the advanced security that was causing this issue. Specifically "I had a Comcast tech out and he said this extra layer of security can't be bypassed and even the newest of modems will have it."

Has that changed? Or is the option that is mentioned being disabled in this thread isn't the option we're looking for?