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Myrdin Potter
June 9th, 2020, 03:14
Since the official ruling is roll one die and that damage applies for each missile - how is that coded for damage in FG?

GavinRuneblade
June 9th, 2020, 03:20
Since the official ruling is roll one die and that damage applies for each missile - how is that coded for damage in FG?

If you hit multiple targets with one dart each, no problem just target them all and roll once. If you hit one target with multiple dice, roll once, drag and drop multiple times. The only problem is concentration checks aren't properly automated.

esmdev
June 9th, 2020, 03:21
Since the official ruling is roll one die and that damage applies for each missile - how is that coded for damage in FG?

Where is this ruling located? My interpretation from the PHB is that each dart is 1D4+1.

Cyrian
June 9th, 2020, 03:29
I'm not even sure I'd say that's the "official" rule. Jeremy Crawford responded to that question in 2016 with, "Magic missile. RAW: You roll 1 damage die (see "Damage Rolls," PH, 196). RAI: It doesn't matter; you choose." RAI should almost always outweigh RAW. In my mind it's similar to a graphic designer intending two walls to make a corner, but as they coded it, you can squeeze through them and pop into the next room as an exploit.

Myrdin Potter
June 9th, 2020, 18:51
If you are DMing an Adventurers League game, you should run as close to RAW as possible.

And each missile counts as a failed death save as well.

esmdev
June 9th, 2020, 19:06
The rules I read as written state that a spell (like magic missile) that hits multiple enemies uses a single damage roll. However, if you are firing three missiles at one person that rule is invalid (as it is not multiple enemies) and based on the text of the spell would use separate die rolls.

Mysteria_Sdrassa
June 9th, 2020, 19:50
I think the vast majority of DMs use the 1 die per missle interpatation to this since that is what it was in older editions, even Matt Mercer uses the 1 die per missle in Critical Role games

Scuba72
June 9th, 2020, 20:23
I have always had the caster roll 1 die per missile whether they target multiple objects or not. I also found this in a Sage Advice Compendium, which leads me to believe this is intended as you may kill a target while you have missiles left over.
"When casting a spell that affects multiple targets, such as scorching ray or eldritch blast, do I fire one ray or beam, determine the result, and fire again? Or do I have to choose all the targets before making any attack rolls? Even though the duration of each of these spells is instantaneous, you choose the targets and resolve the attacks consecutively, not all at once. If you want, you can declare all your targets before making any attacks, but you would still roll separately for each attack (and damage, if appropriate)"
Again, not explicitly stated, but I think does logically follow.
(Link to current SAC - https://dnd.wizards.com/sage-advice-compendium

GavinRuneblade
June 9th, 2020, 21:51
I have always had the caster roll 1 die per missile whether they target multiple objects or not. I also found this in a Sage Advice Compendium, which leads me to believe this is intended as you may kill a target while you have missiles left over.
"When casting a spell that affects multiple targets, such as scorching ray or eldritch blast, do I fire one ray or beam, determine the result, and fire again? Or do I have to choose all the targets before making any attack rolls? Even though the duration of each of these spells is instantaneous, you choose the targets and resolve the attacks consecutively, not all at once. If you want, you can declare all your targets before making any attacks, but you would still roll separately for each attack (and damage, if appropriate)"
Again, not explicitly stated, but I think does logically follow.
(Link to current SAC - https://dnd.wizards.com/sage-advice-compendium

It didn't make it into the Compendium, but there was also this string of Sage Advice Discussions:
Mike said only one concentration check for the whole spell: https://www.sageadvice.eu/2014/10/03/magic-missile-one-source/
Jeremy said each missile causes separate concentration checks: https://www.sageadvice.eu/2016/04/22/do-you-roll-concentration-for-every-instance-of-damage-taken/
Then the question came up why they answered differently and which was authoritative: https://www.sageadvice.eu/2017/11/14/regarding-magic-missile/

But again, none of it got into the compendium unfortunately.

LordEntrails
June 9th, 2020, 22:00
Then the question came up why they answered differently and which was authoritative: https://www.sageadvice.eu/2017/11/14/regarding-magic-missile/
In other words, tweets are not authoritative :)

GavinRuneblade
June 10th, 2020, 07:50
In other words, tweets are not authoritative :)

yes, none of the three are authoritative. the Compendium is authoritative. But the tweets are still informative.