Goodbyes, revolts, tantrums or desire for attention?

[YAKO SOMEDAKY]

I don't know exactly what happened, for a former member of the community to want to go out and revolt so much that he excludes what he created ...
But I just think that all shortcuts, posts created, topics related to the material should be excluded by moderates, community administrators ...
Because seeing something that will not favor anything ... I just see it as something unnecessary.
And yes I mean DULUX-OZ.
And understand that I am not judging, but just thinking ... for having a post of material that doesn’t exist, because I imagine that when someone does something for the "free" community first it is because they felt the need for what they created and second is the way to implement an improvement to the platform he adopted to conduct his RPG sessions.

[Ampersandrew]

I don't know exactly what happened

But apparently still felt the need to characterise it as a tantrum or a desire for attention.

I've read your post four times and still have no idea what it is you're actually saying should happen.

For the record, I don't know what happened either.

[Zacchaeus]

I've removed the links to his extensions in the 5e and CoreRGP list of extensions.

[LordEntrails]

Every community member who submits/posts content is legally allowed to put whatever license they wish on their content. And legally speaking, if someone does not explicitly list a license or terms, they actually then retain all rights to their content. That is copyright law in the US, most of Europe and most other first world countries. What that means is that if someone posts something, it is illegal for you to redistribute it without their written permission and they can revoke it at will.

Since the SmiteWork's website is hosted (as far as I know) in the US, and the company is registered in the US, then my understanding is that US law applies.

Now, everything Dulux-Oz had posted on the forums and elsewhere was posted with a specific license, that explicitly stated the terms of his contributions. No one, except a court of law, gets to take those rights away from him. So if he wishes to remove his content, he is legally and morally entitled to do so.

You might say, "Hey, someone else had taken down their contributions but those got restored, how come this is different?" That's because that person had specifically posted their content with a open/public license, the GPL if I remember correctly, which states that terms of how that content can be handled, and it explicitly states that distribution of content under that license can not be revoked and it can be freely redistributed by others as long as the license stays with the content.

[notrealdan]

Would it be prudent for a moderator to add a note to post #1 of each of the DOE extension threads explaining that the downloads for those are no longer available?

[JohnD]

You should also spend some time contemplating the situation from the other side of the coin.

If Dulux feels he's been dealt with unfairly, I most certainly do support his right to pull anything he's done (for free) that in some way helps and supports the company he feels handled whatever the situation was incorrectly.

That end users are inconvenienced is absolutely unfortunate, but its collateral damage in many ways.

The other end of the spectrum, the license that says anything you make for free and share becomes company property... well I think you'd see community contributions dry up significantly. My opinion at least.

It's a shame but none of us are in a position to build any bridges or mend any fences. Sometimes the situation is a lose-lose-lose outcome where nothing you do is really all that satisfying.

Dulux's posts were always well thought out and coherent... which is more than could be said for the complainer/instigator of this whole drama (which I also dislike being inserted into my hobby space... but what can you do?).

[Zacchaeus]

Would it be prudent for a moderator to add a note to post #1 of each of the DOE extension threads explaining that the downloads for those are no longer available?

Done.

[Dr0W]

It is also known that Dulux's sold modules on DMS guild that made use of the free extensions he pulled out.

Does he have the rights to sell those extensions there, or even include with the sound module purchase? Because from my point of view, anyone who bought it now can't make use of that module (unless Dulux provides them with the DOE Sounds)

[LordEntrails]

It is also known that Dulux's sold modules on DMS guild that made use of the free extensions he pulled out.

Does he have the rights to sell those extensions there, or even include with the sound module purchase? Because from my point of view, anyone who bought it now can't make use of that module (unless Dulux provides them with the DOE Sounds)
I've asked Dulux what his plans are and he may post a response.

[Dr0W]

I've asked Dulux what his plans are and he may post a response.

Thank you. When he answers, please let me know. I want to support him whichever way I can. He has done a lot for the community and deserves it.

[Callum]

To me, the title of this thread appears somewhat inflammatory, and not thoughtful. Could it be changed?

[YAKO SOMEDAKY]

But that is the intention, as I draw attention ... of course, after some research I discovered what really happened and it would be stupid of me to take Dulux's reason, but I feel that we have been orphaned by its materials and I strongly believe that he will make changes to his materials sold at DM's Guild, because if he does not do it all those who have invested in materials made by him or even other collaborators will have torn his money .... I know I can be rude with my words, but I feel that so it becomes necessary.
Regarding the necessary measures, I see that the Smite team needs to take better measures, because the loss of a big one is something very sad.
I say this because it is not the first time that I have seen rude and aggressive topics started by the cause of Dulux's departure from the community, I would feel like him, wronged, disadvantaged, disrespected, so I strongly urge those who can and have contact with Dulux to try talk to him, and that measures are taken in relation to the cause of all this, the community is something that I always like to accompany in order to learn, clarify doubts and the best part of it is the feeling of "friendship", "companionship" and not one toxic and aggressive community ...
But if you like it, could you suggest a better title?
I am all ears and accept opinions.

[Zacchaeus]

Time to close this thread I think before it gets much further.