Run Test error

[Angrod]

So I bought this game a few years ago, and never was able to get it to work. (Annoyingly too, with how expensive it was.) I forgot about it, and now I'm trying again.
However, when I start it up. I click Create New Campaign. And Run Test, and it just keeps giving Failure. I've done all the guides people posted how to fix it.
I've followed a Port Forwarding guide, which are never very helpful. So I'm not even sure if that's correct. People just post a guide, which doesn't fully help.
I set two ports:
Port 3074 and port 1802.

What am I doing wrong and how do I get this to actually open?

[Trenloe]

Welcome (back?) to the FG forums!

Please read through post #1 in this thread and provide answers to the 7 questions listed at the bottom of that post: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?47051-Fantasy-Grounds-Connections-Explained

[Angrod]

Welcome (back?) to the FG forums!

Please read through post #1 in this thread and provide answers to the 7 questions listed at the bottom of that post: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?47051-Fantasy-Grounds-Connections-Explained

Thank you, and sorry.

I am Wired.
Adapter in Network is set to Private
I run Avast with basic settings, nothing extra or changed.
What is tracert 8.8.8.8 and where do I find this at?
Router is basic setup, the only changes made were the two ports I went and opened.

[Zacchaeus]

Type cmd into the search bar and select the command prompt. Type tracert 8.8.8.8 into the window that opens and press return.

You opened two ports? Which ones?

[Angrod]

Type cmd into the search bar and select the command prompt. Type tracert 8.8.8.8 into the window that opens and press return.

You opened two ports? Which ones?

Thank you. I saw in the OP that Tracert is sensitive information. The suggested deleting the post after posting it. So is it safe to post? I feel iffy about it now.


And Port 3074 and port 1802.

[Trenloe]

Thank you. I saw in the OP that Tracert is sensitive information. The suggested deleting the post after posting it. So is it safe to post? I feel iffy about it now.
It's really not - that's just mentioned in case someone really, really doesn't want some publicly available information to be made more available for a short period of time. Just by going on the Internet people can get your public IP address, which is the most "sensitive" information in a tracert (and it's not that sensitive).

The tracert is vital in allowing us to identify what type of network setup you have and give good advice - especially for those who aren't IT savvy.

[Angrod]

It's really not - that's just mentioned in case someone really, really doesn't want some publicly available information to be made more available for a short period of time. Just by going on the Internet people can get your public IP address, which is the most "sensitive" information in a tracert (and it's not that sensitive).

The tracert is vital in allowing us to identify what type of network setup you have and give good advice - especially for those who aren't IT savvy.

Okay, which one do you need? There are a few different here, or do you need them all?

[Angrod]

It's really not - that's just mentioned in case someone really, really doesn't want some publicly available information to be made more available for a short period of time. Just by going on the Internet people can get your public IP address, which is the most "sensitive" information in a tracert (and it's not that sensitive).

The tracert is vital in allowing us to identify what type of network setup you have and give good advice - especially for those who aren't IT savvy.

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[Trenloe]

Thanks for posting - the second hop (10.170...) is a private network IP address - this means you have two private network devices between you and the Internet. Your 192.168.0.XX network - which will be a local router in your home (usually) - the second one may be in your home (do you know if you have another device) or it may be with your ISP and they're sharing public internet addresses between their customers - becoming quite a common practice now.

If you don't have two Internet devices in your home, then ask your ISP if they can give you a dedicated IP - as you need this for peer-to-peer gaming. They may charge you for this though. A quicker check would be to look at some alternative listed here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?43607-Port-Forward-Alternatives Hamachi is a good one to start with as this is free - but it needs players to have it installed as well, and note that this will allow you to play with FG but it won't show a success on the network test - so get a friend to test with you. This is detailed in the Hamachi thread linked in that thread.

[Angrod]

Thanks for posting - the second hop (10.170...) is a private network IP address - this means you have two private network devices between you and the Internet. Your 192.168.0.XX network - which will be a local router in your home (usually) - the second one may be in your home (do you know if you have another device) or it may be with your ISP and they're sharing public internet addresses between their customers - becoming quite a common practice now.

If you don't have two Internet devices in your home, then ask your ISP if they can give you a dedicated IP - as you need this for peer-to-peer gaming. They may charge you for this though. A quicker check would be to look at some alternative listed here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?43607-Port-Forward-Alternatives Hamachi is a good one to start with as this is free - but it needs players to have it installed as well, and note that this will allow you to play with FG but it won't show a success on the network test - so get a friend to test with you. This is detailed in the Hamachi thread linked in that thread.

so wait, I'm not very tech savvy. What I'm getting is the ISP is sharing the internet addresses I have? That doesn't seem good.

By internet device you mean like two different routers? If so, only one. One Modem, one router.
If I ask my ISP for a dedicated IP will I need to know anything more? if they ask questions about what I mean, or they don't understand, I wouldn't know what I'm asking for. So I'm just wondering what to tell them I'm looking for.
And this dedicated IP will fix the problem?
Because, other wise, it seems like the alternatives are programs I need to download and try figuring them out, making it a large hassle. So it would be easier if I could just get the dedicated IP.

[Angrod]

Thanks for posting - the second hop (10.170...) is a private network IP address - this means you have two private network devices between you and the Internet. Your 192.168.0.XX network - which will be a local router in your home (usually) - the second one may be in your home (do you know if you have another device) or it may be with your ISP and they're sharing public internet addresses between their customers - becoming quite a common practice now.

If you don't have two Internet devices in your home, then ask your ISP if they can give you a dedicated IP - as you need this for peer-to-peer gaming. They may charge you for this though. A quicker check would be to look at some alternative listed here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?43607-Port-Forward-Alternatives Hamachi is a good one to start with as this is free - but it needs players to have it installed as well, and note that this will allow you to play with FG but it won't show a success on the network test - so get a friend to test with you. This is detailed in the Hamachi thread linked in that thread.

Also, if you don't mind explaining. What in the 10.170 number showed it was a private IP and what showed you it was two private networks? Just so I know what I'm looking at, and to know if I have fixed it.

[damned]

Their are instructions to each of those alternatives.
I use Hamachi or the SSL Server when I have to do one.
The Private IP thing is in that first link that Trenloe pointed you to.

[notrealdan]

Also, if you don't mind explaining. What in the 10.170 number showed it was a private IP and what showed you it was two private networks? Just so I know what I'm looking at, and to know if I have fixed it.

There are certain ranges of IP addresses that are set aside to always be private, and so do not get routed over the public internet. 10.x.x.x is one of those ranges so it's easy to spot. Another range is 192.168.x.x which is what most home routers tend to use by default.
Here's a link to a full description, probably way more info than you need: :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network

[Angrod]

Okay. So I downloaded Hamachi, set it up. I had a friend get Hamachi and join my network. And still, they are unable to join my server.
So Hamachi didn't fix it. Anything else to do?

[Andraax]

Did your friend connect to your hamachi ip address?

[Angrod]

Did your friend connect to your hamachi ip address?

Yeppers, they're in my network, and I see there name right below my server name.

[Andraax]

But did they put your Hamachi IP address into the "host" box when they tried to connect?

[Angrod]

But did they put your Hamachi IP address into the "host" box when they tried to connect?

yeah, the ip showing inside the hamachi logmein network box.

[LordEntrails]

Inside of FG they need to put the IP address of your Hamachi network.

[damned]

Angrod share your Hamachi connection details to me by PM and Ill test with you.

[Angrod]

Angrod share your Hamachi connection details to me by PM and Ill test with you.

Thank you, DM sent.