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Matchstick
November 28th, 2006, 16:12
So I'm going to try and run a Bureau 13 D20 Modern game, and I need to make a couple maps. One of a house (2 floors) and one of a very large warehouse with three offices, and lots of crates etc. for the characters to interact with.

Does anyone have any recommendations of a mapping program that could make those kinds of maps for use in FG?

Thanks!

Malovech
November 28th, 2006, 19:08
So I'm going to try and run a Bureau 13 D20 Modern game, and I need to make a couple maps. One of a house (2 floors) and one of a very large warehouse with three offices, and lots of crates etc. for the characters to interact with.

Does anyone have any recommendations of a mapping program that could make those kinds of maps for use in FG?

Thanks!

Without a doubt Dundjinni (http://www.dundjinni.com). They have a modern art pack plus a forum with dedicated artists building maps, textures and objects that you can use with the program.

Matchstick
November 28th, 2006, 19:30
Thanks Malovech!

I had looked at DunDjinni, but it didn't look like they had any modern interiors. I suppose I could do a dungeon tileset for my warehouse, and crates are pretty ubiquitous, but even looking at the site now I don't see any options for a home-like interior.

Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks!

Malovech
November 28th, 2006, 23:54
There's a pack called Modern Streets (http://www.dundjinni.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=16).

Also if you go to the discussion forum there is a sub-forum totally dedicated to Modern artwork. I don't frequent it a lot, but you may want to peruse it (http://www.dundjinni.com/forums/forum_topics.asp?FID=14) to see what is available. Also RPGMapShare.com (http://www.rpgmapshare.com/index.php?q=gallery&g2_itemId=105) has a ton of user created art as well. Generally the textures from different genres can also be re-purposed (ie you can use wood flooring for both modern and fantasy).

acmer
November 29th, 2006, 06:47
You could also use floor plans, I guess

Building floor plans (http://www.tc.columbia.edu/housing/detail.asp?id=Building+Floor+Plans)

Matchstick
November 29th, 2006, 14:39
Cool, thanks to both of you!

I tried to look at the Dundjinni demo last night, but my beautiful Java just won't work, and thus neither will Dundjinni. Uninstall, reboot, reinstall. Different versions of Java. You name it, that wonderful product just won't work. I guess I'll have to find either some kind of Java removal tool (I'm assuming the uninstall is leaving something on the machine) or a different machine (!) to run the demo on.

*sigh*

Malovech
November 29th, 2006, 14:47
That is unfortunately the one drawback to Dundjinni. If you are running Windows XP make sure your program access defaults have Java set to Sun's version and not Windows. I also recommend using the version of Java listed on Dundjinni's site if you can.

Matchstick
November 29th, 2006, 16:56
I did try the version on Dundjinni's site, but I'm not sure what you mean by Program Access Defaults. Where would that be?

Thanks!

heruca
November 29th, 2006, 18:56
In case you haven't seen it, there are a lot of modern art pieces for DJ posted here:
http://www.dundjinni.com/forums/forum_topics.asp?FID=14&PN=1

Note that modern and sci-fi are all lumped together on that forum.

Malovech
November 29th, 2006, 21:09
I did try the version on Dundjinni's site, but I'm not sure what you mean by Program Access Defaults. Where would that be?

Thanks!


Start > Set Program Access and Defaults > Choose a default virtual machine for Java

If you only see one option than you only have one installed. If you don't need Java for anything else, I would recommend removing every version of it using Add/Remove Programs (in Control Panel) and installing the Dundjinni recommended version from scratch.

mr_h
November 30th, 2006, 15:49
You can use Dundjinni to make modern maps....I have recently started a Top Secret SI Campaign and have used it. The only downside is you need to dl some more art and search about cause it's not the norm.

The modern street pack is good, plus user made art (And Steel Rats site) really helped out.

My first three maps (somewhat reduced in size for forums)

http://supernovagaming.com/~mrh/TSSI/Maps/Bar1-Small.jpg

http://supernovagaming.com/~mrh/TSSI/Maps/Office1-Small.jpg

http://supernovagaming.com/~mrh/TSSI/Maps/SmallApartment1.png

Matchstick
November 30th, 2006, 15:55
Yep, that looks like what I want! Cool maps!

Of course I tried and tried last night and still couldn't get Java working. Uninstalled all of it, rebooted, installed the one from Dundjinni's site, checked the XP Access and Defaults. No dice. It just crashes every time I try to use it. Sometimes it puts an error log on the desktop with an access violation listed, but Java's site said they don't know what causes it.

Ugh.