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dubugz
October 8th, 2019, 17:39
I'm sure if you're a Mac user you know Catalina has dropped but , you need to know that FG decided not to to upgrade classic FG to work on a 64 bit operating system. After upgrading to Catalina, I figured out Fantasy Grounds was no longer working and I reached out to the developers. They apologized but said that my choices would be to create a new partition with an older version of the operating system, run a dual boot with a windows machine or basically wait for and buy their new application FG Unity.

Unfortunately, their Kickstarter for their new platform has ended, so you can only guess what that means. :cry:

So... if you want to continue using the application DO NOT UPGRADE or it will cause mini-crashes on your computer and will no longer work.
sturtus
October 8th, 2019, 18:14
Would somebody with Catalina please do the community a favor and build Fantasy Grounds in Wine using this 64-bit Wine packager that claims to be able to run 32 bit apps? I would do it if I wasn't participating in weekly FG games and reluctant to break my setup.

https://winebottler.kronenberg.org

the developer of this is looking for testers that use 32 bit apps in his 64 bit Wine packager.

https://mike.kronenberg.org/64-bit-support-with-winebottler-4-0-1/
LordEntrails
October 8th, 2019, 19:53
Welcome to the forums dubugz. Sorry you were not aware of this. It's been talked about on the community here for some months and I believe is mentioned in the hardware requirements as well.

All that said, there are several paths you should be able to use to get FG running, but their is no automated installer. Good luck and let us know if you have questions.
dmbrown
October 8th, 2019, 22:59
I received an email from Crossover, which uses wine that they were hoping to have an alpha out in 30 days that would allow you to run 32bit apps in 64bit Mac OS.
Bidmaron
October 8th, 2019, 23:07
You can use parallels now with Catalina but that is an additional expense.
dmbrown
October 8th, 2019, 23:38
If you want to go the windows route you could if you have the room create boot camp partition. Then you can download windows 10 from Microsoft’s site For free and run FG that way. I tried it on my Mac and it worked, but FG ran better in wine on the Mac OS, so I stuck to that, but I am running High Sierra.
Gix
October 9th, 2019, 02:31
Would somebody with Catalina please do the community a favor and build Fantasy Grounds in Wine using this 64-bit Wine packager that claims to be able to run 32 bit apps? I would do it if I wasn't participating in weekly FG games and reluctant to break my setup.

https://winebottler.kronenberg.org

the developer of this is looking for testers that use 32 bit apps in his 64 bit Wine packager.

https://mike.kronenberg.org/64-bit-support-with-winebottler-4-0-1/

Unfortunately Wine doesn't run on Catalina, at least not the one that came with WineBottler 1.4

Installing wine directly also doesn't work, it complains about "Bad CPU type" which is clearly, bonkers
notrealdan
October 9th, 2019, 04:27
You could also run Windows on your Mac inside VirtualBox. It's free, as opposed to Parallels. https://www.virtualbox.org/
Gix
October 9th, 2019, 05:23
You could also run Windows on your Mac inside VirtualBox. It's free, as opposed to Parallels. https://www.virtualbox.org/

Ha! I was about to post that I'm running it within vagrant/virtualbox with a Microsoft Remote Desktop client running on top of it... but holy crap the performance though... *shudder*
notrealdan
October 9th, 2019, 19:54
Ha! I was about to post that I'm running it within vagrant/virtualbox with a Microsoft Remote Desktop client running on top of it... but holy crap the performance though... *shudder*

Yeah, RDP is not known for having great graphical performance. A VM in virtualbox should perform well otherwise, though.
sturtus
October 9th, 2019, 19:56
Unfortunately Wine doesn't run on Catalina, at least not the one that came with WineBottler 1.4

Installing wine directly also doesn't work, it complains about "Bad CPU type" which is clearly, bonkers

What about WineBottler 4.0.1? I'm no longer in my old Mac support career, otherwise I'd grab a unit off the shelf and test myself!
https://mike.kronenberg.org/64-bit-support-with-winebottler-4-0-1/
dubugz
October 9th, 2019, 20:19
I wound up creating an APFS partition naming it "Mojave" , and then downloading Mojave and creating a Mojave boot drive then rebooted and created a dynamic partition which runs a downgraded OS. Then I reinstall FG.

It's not "perfect" but it's better than nothing.
Gix
October 10th, 2019, 03:41
What about WineBottler 4.0.1? I'm no longer in my old Mac support career, otherwise I'd grab a unit off the shelf and test myself!
https://mike.kronenberg.org/64-bit-support-with-winebottler-4-0-1/

Oops. I meant 4.0.1 not 1.4 (hey, there was a 1 and a 4 in it!). Yeah, that didn't work for me :(
chatty
June 29th, 2020, 01:50
I wound up creating an APFS partition naming it "Mojave" , and then downloading Mojave and creating a Mojave boot drive then rebooted and created a dynamic partition which runs a downgraded OS. Then I reinstall FG.

It's not "perfect" but it's better than nothing.

How has this been working out for you? I am at the point where I NEED to update to Catalina to get access to some apps I want!
dubugz
June 29th, 2020, 02:16
How has this been working out for you? I am at the point where I NEED to update to Catalina to get access to some apps I want!

It has worked fine. You can download Mojave’s on a bootable usb and it is pretty easy to create a partition to run it. But you have to reboot into the partition.
Chris CB
July 1st, 2020, 17:37
And upgrade to Unity version of Fantasy Grounds isn't a solution for you ? I'm using it for real game since a couple of months and have no problem. I'm running Catalina.
dubugz
July 1st, 2020, 18:05
And upgrade to Unity version of Fantasy Grounds isn't a solution for you ? I'm using it for real game since a couple of months and have no problem. I'm running Catalina.



It wasn’t an option when this first started happening. It was still in beta
BaneTBC
July 1st, 2020, 18:26
It still is in Early Access (i.e. beta) and has not been released yet, so you can still run into issues, bugs, instability, what not. It's been fairly stable for me, but with some problems here and there. Others report repeated issues, others have no issues at all.
TXCBoy36
July 2nd, 2020, 06:22
I'm sure if you're a Mac user you know Catalina has dropped but , you need to know that FG decided not to to upgrade classic FG to work on a 64 bit operating system. After upgrading to Catalina, I figured out Fantasy Grounds was no longer working and I reached out to the developers. They apologized but said that my choices would be to create a new partition with an older version of the operating system, run a dual boot with a windows machine or basically wait for and buy their new application FG Unity.

Unfortunately, their Kickstarter for their new platform has ended, so you can only guess what that means. :cry:

So... if you want to continue using the application DO NOT UPGRADE or it will cause mini-crashes on your computer and will no longer work.

I am running on Boot Camp which allowed me to partition the hard drive and running my mac on windows and FGC works fine. I am working on getting Windows 10 upgraded to this machine but I feel your pain. My daughter has a new MAC and it would not work on it so I purchased an affordable windows laptop so she could use FG with our campaign. Good luck with it...!