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belkasro
June 14th, 2019, 19:17
Hey if take one of the horseman of baba yaga. If turn one into a monk. Would the stealing years of time should be turn down or left as is. Trying to have a spin on some changing things around to keep things fresh. Would it be a cr 11 or more if change to monk.

https://www.5esrd.com/gamemastering/monsters-foes/monsters-by-type/fey/baba-yagas-horsemen-3pp/

Zacchaeus
June 14th, 2019, 22:36
I don't think it would matter. The only difference presumably would be that the Monk wouldn't have a lance or a longsword but rather a big stick. Nor would a monk have plate armour and a shield. So the Ac would be less I think and the damage would too.

belkasro
June 15th, 2019, 00:44
Yeah you are right and with the time steal ability kinda be overpowered when doing a lot of strikes.

GavinRuneblade
June 15th, 2019, 05:50
Yeah you are right and with the time steal ability kinda be overpowered when doing a lot of strikes.
Actually, I think the answer is already built into the creature: Temporal strike needs to recharge after use. So it only works on one attack per round, not all of them. At explained in the multi-attack:


Multiattack. The horseman makes three attacks with its lance or longsword. It can use Temporal Strike with one of these attacks when it is available.

But one thing that will greatly limit it as a monk is lack of reach. A lance is a great weapon for mounted combat, bare hands and 5' weapons are very problematic. Your reach is not 5' from all around the mount. It is 5' from the one square you occupy out of the 4 that make up a large mount. Meaning if the horseman is on the left side of the horse and fighting without a reach weapon, then anyone on the right side of the horse is out of reach. This is a weird mechanic, and one that pretty much everyone gets wrong, and then when they learn RAW they decide they don't like it and homerule it that the rider gets reach from all of the mount's squares. But Mearles and Crawford have explained it a few times and that really is how mounted combat works.

If you use the creature's abilities as written (time steal 1/recharge and not all attacks per round) and reach as RAW, plus the lower AC as noted by Zacc, then the CR probably has to be lower as a monk.