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tdwyer11b
August 9th, 2006, 10:19
Wondering what your guys opinions are on this, basically its a distilled version of the d20 rules with some other stuff thrown in, however it definately has the feel of Classic D&D. I'm actually considering making a ruleset for this.

http://basicfantasy.newcenturycomputers.net/download.cgi/Basic-Fantasy-RPG-Rules-2006.52.pdf

Snikle
August 9th, 2006, 13:40
Interesting, I will download it and look it over. Looks very interesting, and very very old school! Sweet! Course it is still d20 though (blah!) Love the OpenOffice notebook paper character sheet, that is sooo perfect.
I have been looking over a rules-lite game system called Stained Glass that is based on The Window (both are availalble here: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/windowrpg/ in the files section). Both are cinematic and very rules lite.

tdwyer11b
August 9th, 2006, 13:51
Well, I have permission from the author to create a ruleset for FG so I think I'm going to go ahead and go for it (Not to mention the rules are free!!). :D I like the disclaimer about the 100 sided die not truly existing in the SG rules, lol, I'm callin em on this one, Its that fist sized spherical die we used to throw at the GM when he made a bad rule call!!!

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6012/zocchihedron2dk7.jpg

Snikle
August 9th, 2006, 14:08
Thought they said they were rare, not that they did not exist...?
If you need help on the ruleset, let me know!

tdwyer11b
August 9th, 2006, 14:14
Note: Although true one-hundred-sided dice do exist, they’re fairly rare Your right :o

mr_h
August 9th, 2006, 14:57
I have one. :D

Snikle
August 9th, 2006, 18:55
I definately think that any character sheet should look like a plain old piece of notebook paper, fitting in with the entire idea that this is an old-school system.

LordTomar
August 9th, 2006, 20:22
Well, I have permission from the author to create a ruleset for FG so I think I'm going to go ahead and go for it (Not to mention the rules are free!!). :D I like the disclaimer about the 100 sided die not truly existing in the SG rules, lol, I'm callin em on this one, Its that fist sized spherical die we used to throw at the GM when he made a bad rule call!!!


If you really want to see the differnt types of dice... http://www.dicecollector.com/diceinfo_how_many_shapes.html

tdwyer11b
August 10th, 2006, 03:37
Started working on the character sheet, also have the magic-user spell nodes finished and started working on spell descriptions.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/289/bfrpgcharsheetpc7.png

Snikle
August 10th, 2006, 03:46
Sweet! I love it!

LordTomar
August 10th, 2006, 03:48
LOL that reminds me of when I first started playing.

tdwyer11b
August 10th, 2006, 06:13
Screenshot on the desktop. (To big?) Edit: Resized

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/2273/screenshot0007pj8.png

LordTomar
August 10th, 2006, 06:15
lol yeah might be a little too big

Snikle
August 10th, 2006, 06:29
I would crop about 1/5 off the side, and about 1/3 off the bottom, problem is the huge white topper, but hey that is how we used it back then!

tdwyer11b
August 10th, 2006, 06:57
Hosted the ruleset if anyone wants to help. :D

http://www.orbitfiles.com/download/id669647874

tdwyer11b
August 10th, 2006, 07:24
Think I might have stumbled on something with the loose leaf character sheet thing, now I'm getting ideas for all sorts of character sheets. Here's the graphic if anyone thinks they can use it:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9186/looseleafblankdn4.png

Kalan
August 10th, 2006, 14:15
omfg...this sooo reminds me of playin the red box back in Elementary!!! I loves it!!!

Hmmm...I have all those books still...damn, now I'm jonesin for some good ol fashioned Red Box action...

Snikle
August 10th, 2006, 14:54
Yeah, this has me sooo wanting to run a old school game.

And it has real halfling/hobbits! Not the 3.5 mutant midget elf things they call halflings these days (all you younglings that think halflings wear boots can just shut up!)

tdwyer11b, here is a place to get some images for use as the books if you are planning on replacing those: http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/rulebooks.html

joshuha
August 10th, 2006, 15:32
Wow I have been working on my character sheet for too long. I was looking at tdwyer11b's screenshot and trying to right click and get the X to close it out.

Kalan
August 10th, 2006, 15:43
Yeah, this has me sooo wanting to run a old school game.

And it has real halfling/hobbits! Not the 3.5 mutant midget elf things they call halflings these days (all you younglings that think halflings wear boots can just shut up!)

tdwyer11b, here is a place to get some images for use as the books if you are planning on replacing those: http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/rulebooks.html

If you manage to get this goin bro you can soo count me in...I remember those days when races were classes! *sighs* The memories...

Snikle
August 10th, 2006, 16:19
Well, due to work related issues, I have had to halt my current campaign until around Oct 1, so if anything comes of this, it will be after that.

tdwyer11b
August 11th, 2006, 11:02
Here's something for you guys to look at, think it looks a little better with some character info filled in. I'm thinking of moving the saving throws over to the right of the ac, hp, ab area. What do you guys think? Also for those of you who haven't read the PDF, here's a brief description:

The Basic Fantasy Role-Playing Game is a rules-light
game system based on the d20 SRD v3.5, but heavily
rewritten with inspiration from early RPG game systems.
It is intended for those who are fans of "old-school"
game mechanics.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7111/screenshot0008jb1.png

Snikle
August 11th, 2006, 14:01
I say move them there, if I remember correctly that was how the character sheets were ususally done. Looking real good though, cannot wait to get my paws on this. Might have to do up some adventures to help people get moving along with this great system.

I notice your test character is a halfling.....ROCK ON!

Kalan
August 12th, 2006, 14:02
Holy crap...I finally got around to d/l this - and its almost EXACTLY how I remember the old Red Box series...this is soooo cool :)

If you need a hand with this td, lemme know! If I get back into Fantasy writing again, I so wanna try an support this :) (Actually, it also reminds me a lot of C&C that's out there...but this is a lot cleaner, simpler, and "old school").

Peace :D

V

tdwyer11b
August 13th, 2006, 08:17
Thanks for the offer Kalan, I'm gonna keep my recent work hosted so if you wanna help, you can get the ruleset and go to it. Fortunately the rules are in PDF form so it's basically cut-n-pasting whats in it into FG code. Tonite I added some of the PC races, text for the character classes and finished building the nodes for all the spell descriptions. Good thing is, my weekend is getting ready to start, so I can probably have this thing done in the next couple of days.

Here's the link to the recent ruleset:

http://www.orbitfiles.com/download/id703856612

Also here's an updated character sheet:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2296/screenshot0001cf3.png

Snikle
August 13th, 2006, 17:37
Looking god td. One thing, on the character sheet, the equipment block, might want to make it one of those defined, but scrollable entries (like the moeny and notes entries are). As it is now, if you get to the end and continue adding text, it runs over and covers the entries beneath it.

Other than that, looking great!

Kalan
August 13th, 2006, 22:29
Maybe even to add to the feel of the whole "retro" thing - I remember playing the old red box at those old school desks...maybe if you could figure out how to do that ;)

Or not...I used to get beat up a lot in those days too :S

tdwyer11b
August 14th, 2006, 10:52
Maybe even to add to the feel of the whole "retro" thing - I remember playing the old red box at those old school desks...maybe if you could figure out how to do that ;)

Or not...I used to get beat up a lot in those days too :S

Kalan, sure I know how to do it, it's just finding the right graphic to put in there. In the meantime, here's the recent ruleset with all the spells in (including descriptions)!! Also the classes have saving throw tables in them and the races are finished. In all, going together very smooth.

http://www.orbitfiles.com/download/id715239444


Looking god td. One thing, on the character sheet, the equipment block, might want to make it one of those defined, but scrollable entries (like the moeny and notes entries are). As it is now, if you get to the end and continue adding text, it runs over and covers the entries beneath it.

Other than that, looking great!

I'll get on that snik.

Snikle
August 14th, 2006, 17:57
I used to get beat up a lot in those days too :S

LOL You should never let anyone know your little secrets...please dont tell us about the gerbils...please!

Kalan
August 14th, 2006, 18:07
The gerbils are stayin in the closet snikle...

Jerk ;) You hurt their feelings now :( They like to be talked about...

Now badgers...badgers??? We don't need no stinkin badgers...

Snikle
August 15th, 2006, 00:37
ot, but my friends and I in high school made a game based off of a comic called Rocket Raccoon, was killer, playing ninja secret agent rabitts and raccoon, dont remember any gerbils, but the badgers were tough little baddies!

tdwyer11b
August 15th, 2006, 01:38
LOL You should never let anyone know your little secrets...please dont tell us about the gerbils...please!

The horror, the horror!!:eek:

Kalan
August 15th, 2006, 02:20
Ya ya...laugh it up fuzzball...

All this pickin on me...and the discovery of this RPG...really does remind me of junior high again :P

tdwyer11b
August 15th, 2006, 02:23
All this pickin on me

We wouldn't do it if we didn't like ya Kalan.

Kalan
August 15th, 2006, 02:26
We wouldn't do it if we didn't like ya Kalan.

Ya I know...and I'd not fight back if I didn't like ya'll too ;)

As ye may have noticed I do poke fun at myself as much or more so than anyone here can ;)

Anyhow...back to the grind I go :S *sighs* 12k words to go :S

Snikle
August 15th, 2006, 02:26
Ya ya...laugh it up fuzzball...

I take offense to that! I am rather furry in my natural state, being called Sasquatch in my younger years! A duel is called for you furry little cat (your little rifle is NOT allowed however!)

Kalan
August 15th, 2006, 02:28
I take offense to that! I am rather furry in my natural state, being called Sasquatch in my younger years! A duel is called for you furry little cat (your little rifle is NOT allowed however!)

Fine...I'll bring along my squad of boxing kittens then :D *wonders where he put that pic now...* or the hell fury cat ;) I really should archive my pics better....

tdwyer11b
August 15th, 2006, 02:34
In fairness I wanna see the stats on these cats.

Snikle
August 15th, 2006, 03:08
LOL No kidding, those Street-Fighting Kittens, or French Poodle Kicking? And, ya wimp, you would need a squad of them to take my furry arse out ;-)

tdwyer11b
August 18th, 2006, 08:40
Here's another source for old-skool gaming that can be shared freely. It's not rules light, but if you start reading over it, you'll notice that it is very "similar" to another well known game and it's OGL!! Good stuff.

http://www.knights-n-knaves.com/osric/

BTW, the BFRPG ruleset is almost ready to go, just need to finish the monster entries and it's ready to be hosted and playtested. Not bad for 9 days work so far. :)

nezzir
August 18th, 2006, 13:15
Hahaha tdwyer11b! That's awesome (the notebook paper character sheet)! I kinda like this... I'd use this rule set.

I've been thinking about this.

You could make the background look like a table top with loose character sheets, a drink, dice everywhere, maybe some coke ring stains on the table and sheets. That's what the character sheet is missing, a Mountain Dew ring on the upper right corner!

Make the token box look like a cigar box.

For tokens, you could scan in pennies and other assorted change, dice, and "go" markers.

Make a few sample maps that look hand drawn on white graph paper with blue lines.

Hahah - I'd so help with this ruleset.

Snikle
August 18th, 2006, 16:43
I am very tempted to throw together an old scholl module to help 'sell' this system. I love the whole old school movement and am considering running some games using this system.

deckyon
August 18th, 2006, 19:24
We just started using BF on the table, so getting this in FG will be key to a full change-over. If you need help, let us know.

Kalan
August 19th, 2006, 01:27
From the little I've seen of BFRPG - I like the simplicity and "Red Box" feel of the game. Snik - if you want a hand on somethin lemme know...I may still have some creative juices left if this project I got don't kill me first :S

tdwyer11b
August 19th, 2006, 04:58
We just started using BF on the table, so getting this in FG will be key to a full change-over. If you need help, let us know.

As I have yet to actually get some gameplay with this system, how's your game going? Care to share some of your opinions?

Of course it's not perfect (yet, hehe) and I've pointed a few things out to the author, such as the lack of the ability bonus table, which he promptly emailed to me. Here they are:

3 = -3
4-5 = -2
6-8 = -1
9-12 = +0
13-15 = +1
16-17 = +2
18 = +3

Also another thing I noticed was the lack of an analyze or identify spell. Which he says is also being corrected.

tdwyer11b
August 19th, 2006, 05:42
You could make the background look like a table top with loose character sheets, a drink, dice everywhere, maybe some coke ring stains on the table and sheets. That's what the character sheet is missing, a Mountain Dew ring on the upper right corner!

Make the token box look like a cigar box.

For tokens, you could scan in pennies and other assorted change, dice, and "go" markers.

Make a few sample maps that look hand drawn on white graph paper with blue lines.

That's definately a good idea, however my grapic arts skills are somewhat lacking, however anyone that wants to donate to this project is welcome.

tdwyer11b
August 19th, 2006, 05:50
For those of you wanting to help, here's the monster file, it's really all thats left to be done. As you can tell some of the entries have been put in, basically its just cutting and pasting from the PDF right into the code, since all of the nodes have been built.

http://www.orbitfiles.com/download/id739607391

deckyon
September 8th, 2006, 14:01
Any updates to this ruleset?

tdwyer11b
September 8th, 2006, 14:32
I've done a few things, but over the last month work has had me working different hours and days, limiting my coding time. Basically all thats left to is put in the rest of the monsters. Sorry to keep you guys waiting, believe me I want to get this done.

Solomoriah
January 17th, 2007, 19:46
Hey, just thought I'd stop in and see how things are going. I'm getting very close to a "final" version of the BFRPG core rules... I'm looking at a print version (via Lulu.com) probably by the end of February. I saw all the kind words in this thread, and I'd like to invite anyone interested in discussing the rules (as opposed to the Fantasy Grounds conversion) to join us in the Workshop at:

http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=42

All the threads tagged [BFRPG] relate to the Basic Fantasy rules.

Hope to see you there!

NineShadowEyes
March 23rd, 2010, 21:35
I downloaded a pretty old ruleset for BFRPG (in this thread). Is there a more recent, updated version available somewhere?

Solomoriah
March 24th, 2010, 01:08
You need to visit the main site: www.basicfantasy.org

The current version is 2nd Edition (Release 75), and as far as I'm concerned it's the final version. That does not mean that development has ended... just that the core is done.

NineShadowEyes
March 24th, 2010, 01:57
I meant is there a newer version of the Fantasy Grounds ruleset for Basic Fantasy.

Basicfantasy.org has been on my bookmarks toolbar for ages. :D

Solomoriah
March 24th, 2010, 02:26
Ah.

Y'know, if someone submitted an FG package for BFRPG to me, I'd post it on the site.

Foen
March 24th, 2010, 07:12
I hadn't seen this thread before, but I love the character sheet graphics! The screenshot of the ruleset makes me think it is for FG1, not FG2.

Although not the same, there is an FG2 conversion of Labyrinth Lord on the FG Wiki (http://oberoten.dyndns.org/fgwiki/index.php/Labyrinth_Lord), that is also a retro clone of original D&D BECM (Basic, Expert, Companion and Master) rules, and comes complete with the reference modules (spells, monsters, classes etc).

There are two extensions that can be used with it: one is a mod to make it more compatible with D&D BECM (the Beckham extension (http://oberoten.dyndns.org/fgwiki/index.php/Beckham_Extension)), and another is a character sheet skin, called the Vellum Texture Pack, which is bundled with the ruleset. I'm now minded to create a second character sheet skin that uses the ruled paper from this thread.

Cheers

Foen

Ctmega
August 2nd, 2017, 18:22
Does anyone have the latest version of this ruleset somewhere they can post? The original links are all dead and I wanted to try it out.

Thanks!

Solomoriah
August 2nd, 2017, 19:40
Does anyone have the latest version of this ruleset somewhere they can post? The original links are all dead and I wanted to try it out.
You can download everything from the main site:

http://basicfantasy.org

There is a link at the top if you'd like to buy print versions of the game; or just go to the Downloads page and get whatever you want.

You might also check out the forum section, which is where we do all development of materials for the game.

Solomoriah
August 2nd, 2017, 19:42
Crap, you meant the FG ruleset. I don't have it, but if you find a copy, pass it along to me and I'll mirror it on the Basic Fantasy site.

Ctmega
August 2nd, 2017, 21:25
Yeah, the FG ruleset... Thanks though! Will do, I am sure it's out there somewhere just need someone who previously downloaded it to re-up.

Thanks!

Ctmega
August 14th, 2017, 01:30
Not to belabor the point on this one but I would be willing to either pay to have it created or offer up some incentive otherwise (web hosting, a steam gift card, etc...) to get this one created. The only stipulation would be that it would need to be released to the public. I am happy to add the modules myself but the Ruleset is just a bit beyond my current capabilities.

Thanks!

CriticalXHit
September 23rd, 2017, 17:37
Also looking for 3rd edition of BFRPG for Fantasy Grounds! It's not listed on the community rulesets (that I could find), any help would be...well, helpful!