Vampire: The Masquerade 5th edition

[Jasondandr]

Howdy everyone!

I'm currently going through the newest core book for VTM and was just wondering if there are plans for a FG version anytime soon? I'm planning on running it in December and wasn't sure how to go about that with the current options.

Thanks

[viresanimi]

It is in the works. No ETA when it is out.

Vires Animi

[Jasondandr]

Oh, thank you very much!

[MTShorts]

Not to raise the dead (that's right, I went there), but as the official is finally released and shipping, any closer hint on an ETA?

[Jasondandr]

I would love to know this too. We started a game and are just using the basic FG table for D&D. It works, but could be better. :)

[MTShorts]

I've got the slip case set of books on order, due to arrive any day. I've always found FG invaluable, and would love to have access to it for this as well.

[UltimateGM]

Do you know if the Vampire V5 ruleset is an official ruleset from White Wolf or is it is a community collaboration? In other words can we expect the rulebook, supplements, and eventually campaigns to be available for purchase?

[MTShorts]

Do you know if the Vampire V5 ruleset is an official ruleset from White Wolf or is it is a community collaboration? In other words can we expect the rulebook, supplements, and eventually campaigns to be available for purchase?

https://www.modiphius.net/collections/vampire-the-masquerade

[Valekk]

Commenting here so I can get updates as well. Looking forward to a ruleset.

[LordEntrails]

Commenting here so I can get updates as well. Looking forward to a ruleset.
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[UltimateGM]

https://www.modiphius.net/collections/vampire-the-masquerade

I mean a Fantasy Grounds official ruleset approved by White Wolf. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[viresanimi]

Paradox / White Wolf can't seem to get their act together. Modiphius has taken over publishing, as far as I understand.

It will probably never be "sanctioned", but it doesn't have to be. You cannot copyright rules. As for when it comes out... 2-3 months ago they said on stream that it wasn't far off. Soooooo.....

Vires Animi

[lostsanityreturned]

I mean a Fantasy Grounds official ruleset approved by White Wolf. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Modiphius is publishing, if they ever say they are working on the ruleset take it with a grain of salt.

Just go with whatever the community has for now.

As for people saying you cannot copyright rules, maybe not in your country but you absolutely can in mine.

[LordEntrails]

As for people saying you cannot copyright rules, maybe not in your country but you absolutely can in mine.
Well, given that SmiteWorks is headquartered and this website is hosted (I think) in the USA, those are generally the laws that matter. The general legal consensus supported by multiple US court judgements indicate that game mechanics themselves can not be protected under US Copyright law. Now, with anything legal, their are always differing opinions, but their is significant case law supporting this view. For instance, see;
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/273935/Texas_court_affirms_game_mechanics_not_protected_u nder_copyright_law.php

Also, the US Copyright office states " Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation, although it may protect the way these things are expressed" And you can delve more into what they mean by that here; https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf

And there is a well cited article on wikipedia here; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_clone#Legal_aspects

[The Malk]

Hello! Definitely interested to see if there is something like this in the works here.

Been running a game for awhile now and I'm eager to see if there are other players about that I can bounce ideas off of.

[Halaku]

I'd also be interested in a 5th edition rules set.


Hello! Definitely interested to see if there is something like this in the works here.

Been running a game for awhile now and I'm eager to see if there are other players about that I can bounce ideas off of.

Hi, I've not tried running 5th edition but I'm running a long 2nd edition game if you wanted to ping me I'd be happy to chat about things.

[Eridan]

Any update on the ruleset? About to start running an online game.

[Valyar]

I found on the internet two screenshot from the reference manual, so I presume the progress is quite good, but who is doing the ruleset and when it will be available - I have no idea...


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564131113480749106/585258782230183956/61687312_10158730035093066_8818493432730222592_n.p ng
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564131113480749106/585258906427719684/61727634_10158730035073066_1785501347571826688_o.p ng

[gandhi39]

I found on the internet two screenshot from the reference manual, so I presume the progress is quite good, but who is doing the ruleset and when it will be available - I have no idea...


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564131113480749106/585258782230183956/61687312_10158730035093066_8818493432730222592_n.p ng
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564131113480749106/585258906427719684/61727634_10158730035073066_1785501347571826688_o.p ng

More pictures would be greatly appreciated

[viresanimi]

Seems like they are working on creating a purchaseable version of the 5th edtion book. Which is cool. But getting such things through can take a long time, and I wish the base ruleset would be released right now. MoreCore is servicable, but I suspect the actual ruleset would be a lot better. I would still buy the 5th edition module if the ruleset and module was seperate. I mean. D&D does that.

Pretty please?


Vires Animi

[Valyar]

I wished I had more screenshots :)

[Trenloe]

Seems like they are working on creating a purchaseable version of the 5th edtion book. Which is cool. But getting such things through can take a long time, and I wish the base ruleset would be released right now. MoreCore is servicable, but I suspect the actual ruleset would be a lot better. I would still buy the 5th edition module if the ruleset and module was seperate. I mean. D&D does that.

Pretty please?
A lot of things will impact the decision to do this - publisher agreements, developer agreements, etc.. D&D 5E was released, with no material, way before their was an official agreement and was created by SmiteWorks developers. 2E was built heavily on this - hence one of the reasons to release it for "free". For Vampire, the ruleset will pretty much have to be written from the ground up (although based on CoreRPG, there will still need to be a lot of RPG mechanics coded and created) and so a lot of development time will be needed. I'm assuming this is being done by community developers, and as such they rely on commission for their remuneration - which would be nothing (or very, very little) if the ruleset was released for free (assuming this is what you mean, when you say "D&D does that"). They'd then have to rely on people paying for the library modules, which would sell but probably not as well if the ruleset was included. I know that you're never going to get rich doing FG development, but then not getting much back by releasing the ruleset for free isn't going to attract many good developers. This is the model for most commercial rulesets on FG - Savage Worlds, Call of Cthulhu, DCC, C&C, RoleMaster, etc..

Have patience, wait for it to be released properly...

[viresanimi]

It would be easier to be patient, if the guy working on it hadn't said that "it was rather close to completion" about 8 months ago, on stream. *grins*

But of course I want to be be done right.


Vires Animi

[Ampersandrew]

It would be easier to be patient, if the guy working on it hadn't said that "it was rather close to completion" about 8 months ago, on stream. *grins*

I might be misremembering this, but is this not the ruleset that got a lot of work from a graphic artist who admitted that the ruleset was beyond his capabilities, and smiteworks put him in touch with a coder?

Which bit was close to completion?

[DMStretch]

I've never played VTM but if it ever came to FG I might just check it out.

[Akumashe]

"SmiteWorks is pleased to announce that Vampire: the Masquerade 5th Edition Ruleset will be coming to Fantasy Grounds October 29th!"
From newsletter, unfortunately, no newsletter with explanation of new date since it would be here today... and is not.

[Nylanfs]

I'll note that a) It's still the 29th and b) their servers are dealing with the influx of upgrade requests. :)

[viresanimi]

I got the impression, that they are not sure how long the delay is. I hope not too long.

[Naurthoron]

There are 24 hours in a day :-)

[Valyar]

People are so impatient those days... :)

[LordEntrails]

There are 24 hours in a day :-)

And 24 time zones around the world!

[Akumashe]

Well, the official reply is 'delayed for now' and 'soon'
Feel free to discuss what they mean with 'soon', but the hopefull goon squad that want to discuss todays date can give up.

[LordEntrails]

Soon (tm)? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soon%E2%84%A2

(Just trying to keep some levity!)

[esmdev]

"SmiteWorks is pleased to announce that Vampire: the Masquerade 5th Edition Ruleset will be coming to Fantasy Grounds October 29th!"
From newsletter, unfortunately, no newsletter with explanation of new date since it would be here today... and is not.

Newsletters come out on Thursdays. Updates and new releases come out on Tuesdays, although I have seen them delayed until Wednesdays from time to time.

[Akumashe]

Newsletters come out on Thursdays. Updates and new releases come out on Tuesdays, although I have seen them delayed until Wednesdays from time to time.

Does this come with a point?

[esmdev]

Does this come with a point?

You said no newsletter with explanation of new date, I was just pointing out that newsletters come on Thursdays, so if there is a new date and it was in a newsletter it would be on Thursday. Also from time to time their updates and releases slip a day, so maybe if it doesn't make it today it might tomorrow. So basically, that would be the point. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Akumashe]

emsdev; Makes sense, point taken.

[UltimateGM]

I'm just ecstatic about news of a release. I've been waiting on this for a while.

[Akumashe]

Agreed, just got a bit miffed when the announced (if tiny and well hidden anouncement) date came and nothing happend. Now we just have to wait and see what the definition of 'soon' is. ;)

[jkru2133]

Any more news on this? Really want to play some VtM here!

[viresanimi]

Waiting for White Wolf to approve it.

[Akumashe]

Latest message I got from them said its delayed a bit with no current ETA, and also that it 'shouldnt be too long' whatever that means when their not the ones waiting ;D

[viresanimi]

The Dev said on today's stream, that White Wolf has it and need to approve it.

[UltimateGM]

The Dev said on today's stream, that White Wolf has it and need to approve it.

Hopefully "soon"

[Nylanfs]

Who knows what "soon" means to an immortal vampire game designer. :)

[Valyar]

Being subsidiary of Paradox and the recent changes that occurred in the way White Wolf are managing the IP and content, I hope the approval process is not going to take weeks :D
Too many corporate, marketing and legal bullshits are happening in the big places.

[viresanimi]

Amen to that. The Vampire IP is literally all over the place. Its a bloody mess.....

[jkru2133]

Amen to that. The Vampire IP is literally all over the place. Its a bloody mess.....

Fun wordplay but yeah, the IP is everywhere, i just hope it get's here soon

[Halaku]

I'm really looking forward to this, I'd love to be able to transfer my game over to a updated and supported ruleset.

[viresanimi]

Considering it it now more than a week late, I do think, some updates / estimates, would be in order.

[LordEntrails]

Considering it it now more than a week late, I do think, some updates / estimates, would be in order.
White Wolf is reviewing it for approval. Their is no update beyond that and since their is no time commitment from them as to when they will approve (or not) then their can be no time estimate :(

Unfortunately, it's one of those things not only out of our hands, but beyond the scope of SmiteWorks as well.

[UltimateGM]

Makes sense seeing that it will be ready once it's reviewed by them. So we can only wait for the publisher at this point.

[UltimateGM]

Figured I would update. Saw information on Twitter page seems vampire was sent back to the developer with a list of fixes. He is on the last couple fixes and then it seems a resubmission. Shouldn't be long now!

[Valyar]

Thanks for the update!

[Dr0W]

I'm hyped.

[Roll the Role]

It's been two weeks anymore updates? Or did I miss release?

[viresanimi]

Nope. No official word. Actually. There's never been an official word from Smiteworks for a month. You have to poke them on the friday streams. Apparently White Wolf / Paradox is slow to test / greenlight the ruleset.

Oh, and welcome!

[Jasondandr]

I honestly can't wait to buy it. :)

[Halaku]

Is there any more news on this? I'm realy looking forward to it.

[Dr0W]

Yea, me too. I've even charged my steam account in october expecting this. It's been hard to save money with all the sales there.

[Yogel]

Still waiting on Paradox/White Wolf I believe.

[Dr0W]

Any official word would be nice. I've just finished a campaign and my players are kinda just waiting for it to be released to start a new one on FG.

[Moon Wizard]

Unfortunately, all we can share is that it is in testing with the publisher, and they are working with the ruleset developer on fixing issues and making changes they want to see. It's up to the publisher and ruleset developer to let us know when it is ready.

However, I will say that since there are certain big sales imminent and that we can't add products during the sale, it will most likely not be available this month.

Regards,
JPG

[MadBeardMan]

Foks,

Working on fixing 2 issues reported by WW I believe, then back over for testing I think.

Huzzah

[MMOaddicted]

How is it coming along? Any news? Sorry for being impatient but the news of release made me set up a group already and we're starting to crumble XD

[Dr0W]

How is it coming along? Any news? Sorry for being impatient but the news of release made me set up a group already and we're starting to crumble XD

Haha, same here. Tbh we gave up on vampire for now, we will be playing something else. So I'll probably just pick this up in the future now, not on release. Steam sales got my money too.

[viresanimi]

My campaign has stalled mightily as well. I was just at a break point, where my players got the idea of moving to another city and I agreed to this, knowing that now I had a lot of work on my hands. And lo and behold, they announce the ruleset. Now, not wanting to make all that work twice, I said: Let use the new system. And so we've been waiting.

What I find very strange about the delays from White Wolf, which is essentially Paradox, is that if there is any company that understands games can be interated upon after release, its friggin' Paradox. So I don't get the delay.

I am starting to suspect that this is going to be released right up to LA by Night season 4 for... some reason...


Vires Animi

[Halaku]

It isn't stopping my current game but I am looking to get this as soon as it comes out. The v20 module I'm currently using is getting more iffy with every fg update and I doubt it will ever work on unity.

[MMOaddicted]

Yeah, and I kinda like the fifth edition XD, but I kickstarted the new Cults of Death thing and my friend promised to GM something for me this year :D. Finally I have become a *player* the curse is broken! Dobby's free!

[WitchFaerie]

Howdy everyone!

I'm currently going through the newest core book for VTM and was just wondering if there are plans for a FG version anytime soon? I'm planning on running it in December and wasn't sure how to go about that with the current options.

Thanks

Holy hell, yes please.

[Halaku]

I was debating kickstarting Cults of Death myself, but I would like to get the hard copy and shipping prices for the rest of the world are just too much. I'll try and pick it up later from a local retailer.

[MMOaddicted]

I got the pdf and I'm paying the kickstarter price for the retail version as my friend owns a brick and mortar which has some way of lessening shipping costs. I prefer to have both, pdf for quick searchable reference, physical for evil plotting in my ritual chamber.

[Halaku]

No more news on this then?

[viresanimi]

What? You expect them to keep us informed? It's only been more than 3 month's since it should have been released...

Personally I am amazed they didn't get it out in time for LA by Night Season 4. Could have sponsored 1 episode or something, saying: "Hey. We got this thing here" to a lot of potential customers. Total no-brainer in my world.... then again. I am no businessman, so what do I know?

[MMOaddicted]

It's not a smiteworks delay, it's a developer/White Wolf delay. The ruleset is still in quality testing, LA by Night was pre-filmed some time ago and it is unlikely the sponsorship could have gone through. I am personally happy that this is happening as it increases the chances of the ruleset being comprehensive and well polished. However that does exarcerbate delays as WW is now a Paradox subsidiary and there is likely a lot of corporate procedure delaying everything. Last news was the fixes were completed and the ruleset was in testing again. I set my own campaign start date at summer, which is the *most* conservative estimation possible. More realistically I'd expect some news this month, and release within 2 months, but that all depends on how good the developer is at their job, and how nitpicky WW/Paradox are. On which I have 0 knowledge so I set my expectations on the worst possible scenarion.

[UltimateGM]

Always good to set expectations low and that way if something happens sooner great if not it's not a let down.

[Valyar]

Always good to set expectations low and that way if something happens sooner great if not it's not a let down.

This is a proper approach. I even go negative when I go to the movies nowadays. :D

[UltimateGM]

Any news from Paradox? Just figure I would ask. 😄

[Valyar]

I am pretty sure it sank in the corporate channels, lawyers, QAs, IP owners, and then repeating it again just in case. :D

[UltimateGM]

It's just crazy that they tested it sent it back then turned around and it got resubmitted and like you say just disappeared.

[Eru the One]

Fantasy Grounds Fridays on Twitch, Doug announced a date.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31750&d=1582562744

[viresanimi]

Yep. I had to ask. Looking forward to it.

[Valyar]

My wallet is ready. I hope the ruleset is well made.

[Raunalyn]

31765

[Naurthoron]

About time: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/product.php?id=VTM5TH

[Halaku]

Yay. :)

[Nylanfs]

Typo alert!
"Karl Bergstr?m"

[Naurthoron]

It is not a typo, it is the ö that did not pass well due to font rendering issues (likely copy/paste).

[viresanimi]

At least it is not "Page XX".

A little joke for the old timers out there.

[MMOaddicted]

Fingers crossed! Hopefully it does not just pass like the *last* announcement XD

[lochost]

Let hope Smite works will adapt it to V20 !!!!

[Dr0W]

Anyone knows when it will be available for purchase on Steam?

Edit:
Ok, I think I found the link

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1180730

Can someone confirm for me this is the one? Some DLC happen to be unavailable in Brazil due to some local laws and people from SmiteWorks have to manually make them available. If this is the case, can someone from SW take a look at it, please? It's showing as unavailable for me.

[UltimateGM]

March 2nd

[ddavison]

It is unavailable for everyone until after it is released on March 2.

[Dr0W]

Alright, I may have not been clear.

Now I know it will only be available for purchase on March 2nd. But people from other countries can click the link and check the webpage.

In Brazil we only get a "This item is currently unavailable in your country.", we can't even check what it is. This is the same message I get when some Pathfinder 2e DLC are unavailable and I have to contact you guys to make it available.

So I'm just asking for you to check if it's everything ok, because I want to buy it as soon as March 2nd, but it probably won't be available in Brazil if it keeps this way :(

[ddavison]

Alright, I may have not been clear.

Now I know it will only be available for purchase on March 2nd. But people from other countries can click the link and check the webpage.

In Brazil we only get a "This item is currently unavailable in your country.", we can't even check what it is. This is the same message I get when some Pathfinder 2e DLC are unavailable and I have to contact you guys to make it available.

So I'm just asking for you to check if it's everything ok, because I want to buy it as soon as March 2nd, but it probably won't be available in Brazil if it keeps this way :(

It should inherit from the Fantasy Grounds main app, but we will have to wait until Mar 2nd to know if that worked properly.

[Dr0W]

Alright, thanks.

[viresanimi]

I wouldn't mind if you could post the approx. time of release. It can be annoying as a European, waking up thinking: Oh I can watch this, or buy this, and then have to wait until poo o'clock in the evening "because US time difference". Knowing beforehand is just nice.

More importantly; the Author extension should work with this right?

So stoked for this to be released. What I've seen so far looks quite impressive!

[Nylanfs]

9am Pacific Time IIRC usually

[viresanimi]

Cool, thanks!

[Mokiyama]

Does anyone know if the core rulebook comes included in the price of the ruleset?

I'm very excited!

[Valyar]

Does anyone know if the core rulebook comes included in the price of the ruleset?

I'm very excited!

If you expect PDF of the book - no. But the core rulebook will be part of the ruleset as module. Otherwise I have no explanation for the insane price :)

[Mokiyama]

But the core rulebook will be part of the ruleset as module.

That's what I wanted to know. Thanks!

I wonder if there will be a way to manage relationship maps?

[Valyar]

What do you mean by relationship maps?

[UltimateGM]

What do you mean by relationship maps?

Relationship maps define people the characters know like touchstones and sires ect. In other words are you on bad terms with certain storyteller player characters and how do the players feel about the other PCs and people within their circle.

I would assume that there is a way to track that since Paradox seems pretty stringent on the ruleset but only time will tell.

[LordEntrails]

Wouldn't that just be an image with story pins on it? I mean not exactly, but wouldn't that work?

[UltimateGM]

Wouldn't that just be an image with story pins on it? I mean not exactly, but wouldn't that work?

Technically yes... never thought of that

[Kaimick]

To the developers, can you please please make it so the dice used are the 5th Vampires dice and allow the Hunger dice to look different

[UltimateGM]

To the developers, can you please please make it so the dice used are the 5th Vampires dice and allow the Hunger dice to look different

I believe they are using 5th addition dice.

[LordEntrails]

Technically yes... never thought of that
I would add that you can then link the pins on the map with pointers to simulate string or connections between the items. Drawing tools are limited, but in FGU I suspect you could do some pretty cool things since you can build the images in FGU and effectively add new images (assets/tokens) to the image as things are discovered.

[UltimateGM]

Yes, I have high Hope's for FGU and it looks amazing so far. You have some really great ideas I might have to adopt you ��

[Nysno]

Anyone planning a campaign yet?

[UltimateGM]

I plan on running the starter set but no idea when as I'm running a PF2e campaign at the moment. Probably another month out.

Also, VtM said it releases in 4 hours I get on this morning and it says coming soon?

[Calirae]

I'm also low-key working on an introductory chronicle for my group; but we're likewise playing some Pathfinder 2 at the moment.

There's either something going on with Steam possibly having the wrong time of release or more last-minute ruleset troubles? After the countdown finished earlier today, it switched over to "Coming soon, not yet available". It's been like that for almost 4 hours. It's not available on the FG website yet either, which makes me think that someone input the wrong release time for Steam.

[MMOaddicted]

My friend promised to be the storyteller for us XD I've had enough of DMing it all myself :D.

[Raunalyn]

I am planning on running something in the near future. I wanted to do a face-to-face chronicle since I feel V:tM works better around a table, but I will settle for virtual.

[viresanimi]

it has been released

[Dr0W]

It should inherit from the Fantasy Grounds main app, but we will have to wait until Mar 2nd to know if that worked properly.

Unfortunately it didn't. Could you guys check it, please?

[MMOaddicted]

My friend group meets in person like once in four to five years which makes it rather hard for face to face roleplay XD.

[Jonin]

It is out. Just bought it a few minutes ago and will be taking a look

[kevdog45]

50 dollars? That seems high but it is a 420+ page book if I remember right.

[viresanimi]

Dice function seems completely broken. Works half the time. Calls for disciplines on a normal attribute / skill roll. Sometimes you can mark the attribute and then roll skill, but most of the time, it has to be in reverse.

And there is definately overlap between the + icon and the dice icon, because if you press the dice icon anywhere other than on its left side, you hit the + icon.

Just use the darn dice box from MoreCore / Genesys etc... That dice function is not very good.

[Calirae]

There seem to be a lot of problems in general, considering for how long it went through the testing period?

Numerous errors popping up when accessing different parts of character sheets; completely unable to interact with anything on the SPC sheet without duplicating the entry and unlocking it (and even then some sections aren't interactible); script errors when rolling dice; players being able to access SPC sheets...

When booting up it also mentions this is the beta version (and when creating a campaign it states the ruleset version is 0.1); I wonder if maybe the wrong version got uploaded?

[viresanimi]

When booting up it also mentions this is the beta version (and when creating a campaign it states the ruleset version is 0.1); I wonder if maybe the wrong version got uploaded?


I forgot about the version number. I share your sentiment and experience completely.

[Mokiyama]

Dice function seems completely broken. Works half the time. Calls for disciplines on a normal attribute / skill roll. Sometimes you can mark the attribute and then roll skill, but most of the time, it has to be in reverse.

And there is definately overlap between the + icon and the dice icon, because if you press the dice icon anywhere other than on its left side, you hit the + icon.

Just use the darn dice box from MoreCore / Genesys etc... That dice function is not very good.

That's disappointing, but it will hopefully be addressed. Since my group has been playing by video for some months now, we can continue to roll real dice if necessary.

I purchased the ruleset anyway in the hopes that it'll be quicker and easier to reference the guidebook for me and my players. As the storyteller, I also plan to use it as a central repository for chronicle information.

[Nysno]

looks good :). Creating a character now. Anyone starting a campaign please feel free to PM me.

[Trenloe]

50 dollars? That seems high but it is a 420+ page book if I remember right.
That's pretty standard - if there is a FG product based on a printed product, then the cost in FG is usually the cost of the physical product. This was how D&D 5E was originally priced, until Doug managed to negotiate with WotC to reduce the pricing - but that was based off the volume they were selling. This is true even for just a base product, not something that comes with all the ruleset coce. For VtM, the printed book RRP is $50 so that's what the FG product is priced at. It includes a ruleset as well - so, you're getting a better than normal deal! :)

[kevdog45]

That's pretty standard - if there is a FG product based on a printed product, then the cost in FG is usually the cost of the physical product. This was how D&D 5E was originally priced, until Doug managed to negotiate with WotC to reduce the pricing - but that was based off the volume they were selling. This is true even for just a base product, not something that comes with all the ruleset coce. For VtM, the printed book RRP is $50 so that's what the FG product is priced at. It includes a ruleset as well - so, you're getting a better than normal deal! :)

Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying. :)

[kevdog45]

looks good :). Creating a character now. Anyone starting a campaign please feel free to PM me.

Are you experiencing any of the bugs that others have mentioned above?

[Melville]

Hello,

I cant seem to be able to unshare things.
MANY things give me nil errors, I dont know where to begin.
A lot of it is broken, and indeed it says this is a beta?
I hope this is an error and the wrong version was uploaded, because 50 usd is a bit much to be beta-testing a ruleset.

[Naurthoron]

Many bugs, dices look awful (even worse in Unity) and they made mistakes in the ruleset (e.g. mawla instead of mask) itself... :(
Dice rolls bugs from the character sheet.
Fortunately they warn you that this is Beta 1.0 AFTER you have bought it...
I am rather disappointed for the money spent for now.

[Trenloe]

Does running in FG Classic look exactly the same as the screenshots in the store page?

What do you see in the chat window immediately after loading?

This, or something else?

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31851

[Melville]

It looks like what it should like on the store page on FG classic

[viresanimi]

Does running in FG Classic look exactly the same as the screenshots in the store page?


No. There are definate differences. Links are shown as skulls in the store images, but are merely dark dots in the current game. Also the Modifiers at the bottom of the desktop are set up differently. There are "Hunger" states shown on the store images. That is not the case in the ruleset.


I can't say if the images are old or if the ruleset is an old version.

[Trenloe]

Do the see the same as I've posted above in post #132?

Where does it say that it's beta?

[viresanimi]

Where does it say that it's beta?


In the lobby when you create a new vampire game, it says release 0.1. When you load the game, it says v.1.0.0 (beta)



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[Calirae]

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It mentions 1.0.0 (beta), which would be odd for a 1.0.0 version; just some leftover text maybe?
It also says 0.1 when you look at VTM5TH in the campaign menu.

[Dr0W]

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It says beta here

[Trenloe]

Does indeed look like an older version has been loaded.

I've emailed the SmiteWorks folks.

[Vackipleur]

For me, it's beta too.

[kevdog45]

Does running in FG Classic look exactly the same as the screenshots in the store page?

What do you see in the chat window immediately after loading?

This, or something else?

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31851

I don't have it in front of me but I think others were saying the version number was like beta .1. The version number in the screen you shared is 3. something. Looks like a mistake in uploading to the server to me. I don't have the ruleset though so I could be wrong. I hope it gets sorted out. I am looking forward to buying this when I can.

[Kelrugem]

I am not sure how it works with encrypted rulesets (this is probably encrypted), but did you try to delete its .pak file in the ruleset folder of FG and try an update again? A redownload might help to get the correct version, comparing Trenloe's image with the other images suggests that you all got the wrong version :)

EDIT: Okay, it seems that vaulted rulesets are not at the same place? I hope someone can help you then. Maybe just hit the update button again?

[Dr0W]

I am not sure how it works with encrypted rulesets (this is probably encrypted), but did you try to delete its .pak file in the ruleset folder of FG and try an update again? A redownload might help to get the correct version, comparing Trenloe's image with the other images suggests that you all got the wrong version :)

It's not. But either way if there was a different version uploaded, the launcher would call for an update.

[ddavison]

The one with the dots and not skulls is the correct version.

I just added some quick documentation on how to use the ruleset. I have asked Dan and Colin to provide some more information. I will start a new thread for bug reports and questions and link it here. Dan and Colin will be pointed to this thread:

https://fantasygroundsunity.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/FGU/pages/183336961/Vampire+The+Masquerade+5th+Edition+VTM5TH

[Kelrugem]

It's not. But either way if there was a different version uploaded, the launcher would call for an update.

EDIT: Ah, Doug answered; so disregard my answer :D

Yup. Then maybe wait a bit :) When it is really just a wrong version in the updater then it should be quickly fixed :)

The only other idea I got now: You could try to switch from live to the test mode, maybe there is the "correct ruleset" stored already :) (but only when you can't wait for a fix :) and I am not sure whether that will work, too)

[ddavison]

Please see this post and add any bug reports there.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?54058-Vampire-the-Masquerade-Bug-Reports&p=478334#post478334

[Jonin]

Loooks good right off the bat. I see we got some issues but I'm sure they'll be addressed

[Mokiyama]

Looks like the VtM specific sub-forum is up! https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?110-Vampire-the-Masquerade

[Valyar]

Interesting, there is one for VtM on day one, but no for Symbaroum. ;)

[kevdog45]

After seeing the problems other people are having I'm kind of glad I didn't have the scratch to pick this up at time of release. I'm going to wait until things calm down a little on the bug reports before buying but I'm happy FG has added the ruleset.

[Raunalyn]

After seeing the problems other people are having I'm kind of glad I didn't have the scratch to pick this up at time of release. I'm going to wait until things calm down a little on the bug reports before buying but I'm happy FG has added the ruleset.

It's cleaned up a lot!

Took me a bit to understand how to make rolls, but I was able to figure it out. I kind of like it; it's a different approach to using the attributes with different skills.

[blittlepage]

What is the secret? I have been trying to figure out how to make a basic roll and cannot.

I am not sure if it is a problem with the Ruleset or just me being new to Fantasy Grounds.

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[Naurthoron]

RTFM :-) https://fantasygroundsunity.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/FGU/pages/183336961/Vampire+The+Masquerade+5th+Edition+VTM5TH


What is the secret? I have been trying to figure out how to make a basic roll and cannot.

I am not sure if it is a problem with the Ruleset or just me being new to Fantasy Grounds.

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[Trenloe]

What is the secret? I have been trying to figure out how to make a basic roll and cannot.
Have you followed the documentation linked on the previous page? https://fantasygroundsunity.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/FGU/pages/183336961/Vampire+The+Masquerade+5th+Edition+VTM5TH

If it still won't work, please provide details of the steps you're taking and where it fails.

[Raunalyn]

What is the secret? I have been trying to figure out how to make a basic roll and cannot.

I am not sure if it is a problem with the Ruleset or just me being new to Fantasy Grounds.

bl

Click on the + sign next to the attribute, then double click on the dice symbol next to the skill.

[ddavison]

...or you can click on the Plus to light it up and then click-drag the attribute dice icon to pick them up and roll them all into the chat window. Note that if you are using an SPC record, you need to copy it to your local campaign first.

[Valyar]

Good work on the manual. :)

[Akumashe]

When buying Fantasygrounds modules for pathfinder, theres a discount if you alredy bought the pathfinder books. Will there be something similar here? Alredy having payed 120+ for the books, another 50 for the ruleset because it contains the rules... I alredy own... well. Would be nice.

[blittlepage]

First, thank you for the manual.

It clarifies a lot.

Second, none of that works for me.

I cannot get the plus to select either the skill or the attribute in either order.

I can double click on the die by the attribute to roll double the attribute or by the skill to be told that I cannot roll just a skill but that is as far as I have come to getting this to work.

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[Raunalyn]

First, thank you for the manual.

It clarifies a lot.

Second, none of that works for me.

I cannot get the plus to select either the skill or the attribute in either order.

I can double click on the die by the attribute to roll double the attribute or by the skill to be told that I cannot roll just a skill but that is as far as I have come to getting this to work.

bl

Are you using Unity or classic?

[ddavison]

First, thank you for the manual.

It clarifies a lot.

Second, none of that works for me.

I cannot get the plus to select either the skill or the attribute in either order.

I can double click on the die by the attribute to roll double the attribute or by the skill to be told that I cannot roll just a skill but that is as far as I have come to getting this to work.

bl

Can you post this into the bug thread and provide some additional details? Fantasy Grounds Unity or Fantasy Grounds (Classic)? Have you run another update if you installed on day 1? There were a few day 1 fixes posted. Are you trying it from the character sheet or from an SPC? If from an SPC, are you trying it from a local copy or directly from the Library or directly from the SPCs list. Note that if you have a copy, the copy will be the one that does not show the module it came from in the SPC list.

[MTShorts]

So, has anyone attempted starting a game to see how much works and how much doesn't? Would love to be a guinea pig...

[Mokiyama]

So, has anyone attempted starting a game to see how much works and how much doesn't? Would love to be a guinea pig...
There’s a bug thread (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?54058-Vampire-the-Masquerade-Bug-Reports) open where people are posting bugs as they find them.

I haven’t been able to to test it extensively, but I have begun the process of transitioning my chronicle into fantasy grounds. I’m looking forward to my group’s first session using the new ruleset, despite the bugs.

[Doomsmythe]

Hi There! This may be a dumb question but I have this ruleset. There are references all over the place about a "reference manual." Does anyone know where said manual is?

[MMOaddicted]

Hey! No such thing as a dumb question.

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Click on library, and there will be the reference manual there which is literally the entire book pdf.

If it is not there, click on modules and activate the module, screenshot incoming!


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[MadBeardMan]

Hi There! This may be a dumb question but I have this ruleset. There are references all over the place about a "reference manual." Does anyone know where said manual is?

Hello, the Ref Manual is available once you have the VtM module 'loaded'. Make sure it is, click on the Library (bottom right), and you should see a list of Modules loaded (the VTM is listed under Core Rules). If the VtM rulebook isn't loaded, then click 'modules' (small button at the bottom of this window) and then scroll down to find the VtM and then 'load' it and it'll appear in the Library screen. Clicking on it, and the right hand side shows all the contents of that module, including the Reference Manual.

[Hanyo990]

I have the book ruleset. It seems at base to be an excellent start. It has some oddities I really wish I could look at or fix, but I honestly have no clue about trying or how to go about it AT all. I don't know who's who or what's what with these kind of things, but I'd be happily willing to throw out bug reports, and or do work to update and improve it I just ... can't really do much beyond throw it through all the paces and look for the things I'd like to see, as a long time RPG-er and all that.

[Doomsmythe]

Is there somewhere I can find update notes for this ruleset? I have searched high and low but maybe I am missing something.

[Fear Grounds]

Is there somewhere I can find update notes for this ruleset? I have searched high and low but maybe I am missing something.

All updates are posted in the City Hall Forum. You'll just have to read through the list of updated content to see what was updated in VTM, this is from May 5th:
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