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Zephyros
November 17th, 2017, 12:11
Hi, I'm trying to configure this but I can't see how.

I want that the results of rolls (attacks, saves, etc) are showed in the chat, but without the numbers between [ ]. Is that possible?
I don't want to hide the result itself and have to say every time "hit" or "miss". Its good to the players see for themselves the result, but without the numbers.

I tried to deactivate the "Chat: Show rolls totals" in options but it doesn't change anything (is this option broken? what it changes exactly?).

Zacchaeus
November 17th, 2017, 14:25
I'm not entirely sure what you want but there are three options for dice rolls.

The first (Show GM Rolls) hides all GM roll from the players if switch off.
The second Show Results to Clients shows whether the result of a roll is a hit or miss or if a save succeeds or fails (This can also be set to 'Friendly' meaning only the result of heals or other rolls made on friendly characters will show up)
The third Show totals shows the full result of the roll including modifiers.

If show results to clients is off and show totals is on; it will show the roll along with modifiers but it won't show the results (i.e.hit/miss etc)

Zephyros
November 17th, 2017, 14:44
I was hoping that setting only the "Show Results to Clients" on, would set something that shows if is Hit or Miss but without the number (roll+modifier).

I'm trying to hide the number of the result, not the result itself.

I'm with:
Attack [13] -> [at Seth] [MISS]

I want to set something like this:
Attack -> [at Seth] [MISS]

LordEntrails
November 17th, 2017, 15:59
Also, to see what the players see, start a second instance of FG and connect to your GM host as 'localhost'

What you see in the chat as GM is different than what players see on their end.

Zephyros
November 17th, 2017, 16:18
I joined my table with the localhost thing.

With the options:
_Show GM rolls = off
_Show results to client = on
_Show roll totals = off

I'm still getting:
Attack [14] -> [at Seth] [MISS] at the client side.

How I remove the 14?

If I change "Show results to client" to off, I get:
Attack -> [at Seth]

I don't wan't to lose the result [MISS], only the [14]... is there a way?

Zacchaeus
November 17th, 2017, 16:56
Simple answer is you can't 'lose' the 14. What you are looking for is to suppress the dice but not the result which currently isn't possible. (Since the player can see what they rolled anyway simply by looking at the dice they rolled - I'm not sure why suppressing the number in chat is needed).

Moon Wizard
November 17th, 2017, 17:49
If the roll is hidden in the GM side and the results option is turned on, I believe that the player client will see something like you originally requested. I’m not certain without testing it; but you can see what the players will see by logging in with a second instance of FG using localhost as the server address.

Cheers,
JPG

Zephyros
November 17th, 2017, 18:35
Simple answer is you can't 'lose' the 14. What you are looking for is to suppress the dice but not the result which currently isn't possible. (Since the player can see what they rolled anyway simply by looking at the dice they rolled - I'm not sure why suppressing the number in chat is needed).

One scenario is Attack rolls of enemies to players, I don't want they to know the value of the attack, only if it was Hit or Miss. For example, a player with Shield spell need to known if he was hit, not the value of the hit.


If the roll is hidden in the GM side and the results option is turned on, I believe that the player client will see something like you originally requested. I’m not certain without testing it; but you can see what the players will see by logging in with a second instance of FG using localhost as the server address.

Cheers,
JPG

With my tests it doesn't work, the players still sees the result (number rolled).
BTW, the option of "Show roll totals" doesn't change anything in DM side and player's client side... I think this option is broken (not changing anything).

Moon Wizard
November 17th, 2017, 19:42
It appears to be working exactly as expected. Check out the images attached. The GM display is on the left, and the player display on the right.

attack_default.jpg : GM rolls = On / Results = On
attack_off_on.jpg : GM rolls = Off / Results = On
attack_on_off.jpg : GM rolls = On / Results = Off
attack_off_off.jpg : GM rolls = Off / Results = Off

The result totals option is purely for whether the roll total is displayed, if the roll is displayed. The original version of FG did not display totals. (See roll_gm_total_off.jpg)

There is not currently an option which hides the total applied in the results displayed.

Regards,
JPG

JohnD
November 17th, 2017, 20:25
It appears to be working exactly as expected. Check out the images attached. The GM display is on the left, and the player display on the right.

attack_default.jpg : GM rolls = On / Results = On
attack_off_on.jpg : GM rolls = Off / Results = On
attack_on_off.jpg : GM rolls = On / Results = Off
attack_off_off.jpg : GM rolls = Off / Results = Off

The result totals option is purely for whether the roll total is displayed, if the roll is displayed. The original version of FG did not display totals. (See roll_gm_total_off.jpg)

There is not currently an option which hides the total applied in the results displayed.

Regards,
JPG

Personally I'd use the second option.

Maldev
March 3rd, 2019, 14:38
Hi all, I can no longer get the Options to show Players/Clients Totals only. Last week it worked fine, but no longer as of today (No update on start up)
GM rolls = Off
Results = On
Players/ clients see nothing, except for the shadowed die being rolled.
The only way they can see anything in chat is with GM rolls= ON.(That works, but they see ALL)
I used client instance today and I DM'ed my regular game tonight with no luck.
I am using FG V3.3.7 with the 4E ruleset.
Any ideas?

Zacchaeus
March 3rd, 2019, 14:59
Are you using any extensions? Does the problem happen in a new campaign without extensions?

deer_buster
March 3rd, 2019, 18:14
Hi, I'm trying to configure this but I can't see how.

I want that the results of rolls (attacks, saves, etc) are showed in the chat, but without the numbers between [ ]. Is that possible?
I don't want to hide the result itself and have to say every time "hit" or "miss". Its good to the players see for themselves the result, but without the numbers.

I tried to deactivate the "Chat: Show rolls totals" in options but it doesn't change anything (is this option broken? what it changes exactly?).


Hi, you might want to check out this extension: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?47946-LAE-ExpandedOptions-v1-1-for-5E


If you turn on the "Chat: Use Attack Prettifier" option, you will get the results as indicated in the ExpandedOptionsSettings.PNG linked in the post.

Hope it helps

Maldev
March 4th, 2019, 03:11
Disabled extensions in existing campaigns- Same result
New Campaign with no extensions same result (See attached screen shot)
Perplexed...

deer_buster
March 4th, 2019, 03:56
Disabled extensions in existing campaigns- Same result
New Campaign with no extensions same result (See attached screen shot)
Perplexed...

You're not going to show any results to the party if there aren't any results to show. Just rolling a dice isn't going to show to the clients unless you are showing GM rolls. Throw up the combat tracker and put a PC and a NPC on there, show us the results when you roll an attack on the PC from the NPC...

Maldev
March 4th, 2019, 05:00
That's true, bad example by me. However, I ran my usual game last night with 3 other players joining via the net and it did not work with a proper encounter...Nor when I spent some time testing after the session..
I have run it without extensions and then enabling them again in differing campaigns. Also restarted FG & PC several times. It is now working and I didn't figure out why it wasn't... :(
Bit of a timewaster, sorry. Thanks for your input , cheers