DnD 5e Demi-Gods & Deities?

[Laerun]

Curious, does anyone know if there has been any original or licensed products detailing the various pantheons of the Forgotten Realms or any others? Not only does it lack in FG, but also many newer canon products. I do recall a Handbook at least that would give you many options... Is it time for a new product? There are ways to title things without copyright infringement. Instead of quoting WoTC, you could just say spider goddess, or goddess of arachnids instead of Lolth for example. I know that a smattering of Gods are detailed in SWAG, but it seems sort of minimal.

DM Laerun

[Zacchaeus]

Unless WotC release something then no, since you can't do anything with the Forgotten Realms since WotC have reserved copyright.

[Nylanfs]

Steve Creech will probably be coming out with a 5e version of this, it might interest you. :)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1350564333/lore-of-the-gods-pfrpg-edition

[LordEntrails]

Other than the list of various pantheons in the PHB, no. WotC has been pretty clear that since that type of material is pretty well the same as it was in previous editions that they don't intend to re-publish it again. I just use the material found on the FR wiki site. At best it's been updated to the 4E timeline, but usually it still is only at 3.5. (I forget the years.)

[Myrdin Potter]

I would need to double check, but this probably would be allowed in the DMs Guild and you can make a Fantasy Grounds module for sale using WoTC IP if you sell it in the DMs Guild. I would search dmsguild.com.

The Book of Righteousness from Green Ronin should have a Fantasy Gounds version soon. That book has a fully developed pantheon and religious system. Not the FR one, but not that hard to substitute,

[Laerun]

Ok, TY all...

[L. R. Ballard]

Curious, does anyone know if there has been any original or licensed products detailing the various pantheons of the Forgotten Realms or any others?

The 3rd edition Faiths and Pantheons comes to mind. I own a hardcover copy and have been consulting it since the conversion I’m doing of the 2nd edition FRE1 includes the avatars of Bane and Mystra; Faiths and Pantheons has 3e versions of the avatars in FRE1 updated from 2e.


I would need to double check, but this probably would be allowed in the DMs Guild and you can make a Fantasy Grounds module for sale using WoTC IP if you sell it in the DMs Guild.

I think you’re right: updating the 3e stats of the deities and avatars to 5e likely would be permitted under the DMs Guild rules for conversions.

The idea had occurred to me of converting the Faiths and Pantheons deities and avatars, then releasing the conversion on DMs Guild. If there’s interest in such a conversion, I could email the DMs Guild to run it by them after I finish converting the Avatar Trilogy.

Please let me know if there’s any interest in that.

[Myrdin Potter]

I can tell you from previous experience that DMs Guild is not much into answering questions on every module.

I think this is allowed, as it is forgotten realms and not on the excluded list. Considering the volume of material there, I am amazed it is not done yet.

[Laerun]

Likewise. I was kind of lost with my characters belief systems.

[L. R. Ballard]

I can tell you from previous experience that DMs Guild is not much into answering questions on every module.

I think this is allowed, as it is forgotten realms and not on the excluded list. Considering the volume of material there, I am amazed it is not done yet.

It's true that DMs Guild responded favorably to me after I emailed them to ask them about converting Elminster from FRE1. Converting NPC stats is consistent with the DMs Guild rules for conversion and likely applies universally provided that the conversion is to 5e. My desire to make sure has to do with the levels of some of the deities and therefore the conversion work involved--the depth of the builds may be one reason people have shied away from converting Faiths and Pantheons.

[Laerun]

I was hoping to have something with the Gods that detailed their stats, their domains, listed name equivalents,religious expectations, and some history in the FR timeline as to the rise and fall or change to the gods. Also, I would like some basic religious tenants outlines, temples listed, and some granted powers or character avatar notes. God-->Domain-->Locations-->RP, Lore and Historical Data--->Religious Requirements/Rites--->Optional Avatar data...

[LordEntrails]

Stat conversions is certainly allowed, but cut and paste of the history and descriptive text is not. You could write your own history and descriptions, or write original history from what has already been published. For example, you can look at Classic Conversions and see how they do it. In general they convert the stats and provide a conversion guide, but you still have to have the original module (which you can buy as a PDF) to run it.

[L. R. Ballard]

Stat conversions is certainly allowed, but cut and paste of the history and descriptive text is not. You could write your own history and descriptions, or write original history from what has already been published. For example, you can look at Classic Conversions and see how they do it. In general they convert the stats and provide a conversion guide, but you still have to have the original module (which you can buy as a PDF) to run it.

Precisely that. The conversion of FRE1 that I'm doing for Classic Modules Today has to omit the descriptive text.

[L. R. Ballard]

I was hoping to have something with the Gods that detailed their stats, their domains, listed name equivalents,religious expectations, and some history in the FR timeline as to the rise and fall or change to the gods. Also, I would like some basic religious tenants outlines, temples listed, and some granted powers or character avatar notes. God-->Domain-->Locations-->RP, Lore and Historical Data--->Religious Requirements/Rites--->Optional Avatar data...

I sat out the whole 4th edition and am not an expert on what 5e has out on deities, so I can't speak to the resources that either has available today. The 3e Faiths and Pantheons has a lot of what you seek, but, as far as FR goes, its timeline of course goes no farther than early 3e. F&P is post-Avatar Trilogy, so Cyric and Kelemvor are described as deities, but the source was first published in May 2002.

[Myrdin Potter]

You can rewrite the descriptive text. I don't think their "stories" are protected, but certainly you cannot just cut and paste. like Celeborn is the indeterminate sex god of the Elves.

[L. R. Ballard]

You can rewrite the descriptive text. I don't think their "stories" are protected, but certainly you cannot just cut and paste. like Celeborn is the indeterminate sex god of the Elves.

In their reply regarding FRE1, DMs Guild states that they "recommend omitting DM-red [sic] text from your conversion." I infer that "DM-read text" is text that appears in a box. However, many passages in FRE1 that are not enclosed in a box nevertheless convey narrative details--those passages could be read to players by the DM. So, that leaves me with a gray area in which I've chosen to proceed with caution. Clearly, descriptive text that suggests to the DM how to run combats, how to roll to see if characters notice that they are being followed, and so forth, involves 2e mechanics. A conversion would be expected to offer a rewrite on how to handle the mechanics in 5e, the rules-based running of encounters and other situations. But I think it would be wise for me to cut a lot of Ed Greenwood's descriptive narrative even when it isn't in a box, summarize it when necessary, and cite the pertinent FRE1 page numbers in the FG conversion, i.e., "For more information on X, see FRE1, 26."

[Jiminimonka]

I would need to double check, but this probably would be allowed in the DMs Guild and you can make a Fantasy Grounds module for sale using WoTC IP if you sell it in the DMs Guild. I would search dmsguild.com.

The Book of Righteousness from Green Ronin should have a Fantasy Gounds version soon. That book has a fully developed pantheon and religious system. Not the FR one, but not that hard to substitute,

This never happened then? The FantasyGrounds version I mean.

[Myrdin Potter]

I have the FG version, so it did happen (book of righteousness)

[Jiminimonka]

Oh! Give me a link please I couldn't find it

[Maetco]

I think Myrdin was referring to this

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/product.php?id=GR5EBOTR

[Jiminimonka]

I think Myrdin was referring to this

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/product.php?id=GR5EBOTR

Awesome - thanks.

[Myrdin Potter]

Oh! Give me a link please I couldn't find it

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/product.php?id=GR5EBOTR

(I see I was second on the link)