Problem with the Library

[Sulimo]

It's been a while since I fired up FG (life managed to get in the way there for a while), so I managed to finally have some free time, and I thought I would see if I could get a new campaign created for some friends.

The only problem is there appears to be something wrong with the library, but only in the RM ruleset as far as I can tell (I've tested out most of the others, and cannot recreate it in any other one). This is with the latest 1.7.6 version.

What I see is basically that when I open the modules for Arms Law, Character Law, Spell Law, and the included FG Battle Maps, I cannot scroll the library all the way to the bottom. It is normally not a problem, except I do have some custom modules I built, and it makes it hard to select them. I can basically resize the window, and eventually get all of them to show up. My concern is that even with the monitors I currently have, eventually this might not be an option. I'll note that I never saw this previously when I was fiddling around with FG, I could load up a bunch of modules, and never had trouble with scrolling to the bottom if I needed to in the Library.

If I try to grab the scroll bar, it just ends up moving the whole Library window around, and using the mouse scroll wheel does not work either.

Here is what I am referring to, in this one I can actually see the Spell Law entry, however, even though the scroll bar indicates that I should be able to scroll down farther, it will not for some reason There are only default FG modules loaded on this one.

https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q215/Sulimo_photos/Posts/Library1_zpsvtnzjl0i.jpg

Here is basically the same image as above, except I have resized the window.

https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q215/Sulimo_photos/Posts/Library2_zpsvcdefcyh.jpg

And here is a more extreme example with one of the custom modules I created loaded. You can just see the corner of the Spell Law Module at the bottom of the picture. I cannot scroll down any farther to get Spell Law to be visible (either with trying to drag the scroll bar, or using the scroll wheel on the mouse).

https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q215/Sulimo_photos/Posts/Library3_zps1mvrukkj.jpg

Anyone else see this and know of a fix?

[damned]

Welcome back Sulimo
Check you dont have any unpacked Rolemaster rulesets in your /rulesets directory.
Delete the rolemaster pak file and re-run the updater.

[Sulimo]

Welcome back Sulimo
Check you dont have any unpacked Rolemaster rulesets in your /rulesets directory.
Delete the rolemaster pak file and re-run the updater.

Tried that too, I completely uninstalled FG (have to take that one up in the other support forum, it does not seem to register properly to uninstall), copied out the items I wanted from the Data folder, then deleted everything else so I could start completely fresh. The only thing I did not go do was to remove the abandoned reg keys (maybe I'll give that a try if nothing else works).

With nothing but the items that come with the download it still happens.

[Sulimo]

So, on a hunch, I fired up an old computer with FG on it, and with the exact same modules open, the library behaves properly.

This is with FG ver. 3.1.5 and RM ver. 1.6.2 (at least opening up the .pak file and looking at the base.xml shows that version).

Is there a list somewhere that would tell me what files I could transfer to see if the issue is FG, or the ruleset?
I'm thinking if I transfer the ruleset files from the computer that is working to the non-working one, that would be a good test to see where the actual problem lies.

[Andraax]

I have FG 3.2.3, RM 1.7.6. I'm seeing the same problem.

[Dakadin]

Thanks for letting me know. I will try to track down the issue.

[Ardem]

Just make sure you do not have an unpacked version of the pak file in the ruleset folder, this take precedence over a pak version. I am saying this because it look like you like to get into the back end and it one the easier things to overlook.

[Sulimo]

Just make sure you do not have an unpacked version of the pak file in the ruleset folder, this take precedence over a pak version. I am saying this because it look like you like to get into the back end and it one the easier things to overlook.

Damned (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?37314-Problem-with-the-Library&p=327588&viewfull=1#post327588) said pretty much the same thing in the first reply to this thread.

You can see my response (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?37314-Problem-with-the-Library&p=327618&viewfull=1#post327618) in the very next reply.

[Ardem]

Sorry i tend to ignore what Damned normally says its always utter crap <wink>

[damned]

Sorry i tend to ignore what Damned normally says its always utter crap <wink>

Oi! Eye Con is on the week after FG Con... You gotta make one or the other soon!

[JohnD]

Noticed this as well.

[Ardem]

Eye Con, give me the which day I should go, so I can make arrangements with the Ogre at home, who guards my prison.

[Celenor]

Greetings fellow Rolemasters,

I am returning to RPGs after about a 12 year absence, and gathering together the fellowship I gamed with all those years ago through Fantasy Grounds. So I am using my awesome, but rusty, GM Necromantic powers to revive this thread to enquire if an answer to this issue was ever identified. I have tried Fantasy Grounds 3.3.7 with the Rolemaster 1.7.8 ruleset on 2 different systems with the same result. I did not have an unpacked PAK in the Fantasy Grounds Ruleset folder, so that doesn't appear to be the issue with this. Hopefully I am overlooking something simple on my end.

In addition, I would like to thank this community for all the work being done to update and input the Rolemaster set into Fantasy Grounds. I am really looking forward to being able to reconnect with the old crew again and rattle some dice.

[Dakadin]

There is a fix for the issue in the Test channel if you want to test it out.

[Celenor]

Thank you for the reply, Dakadin. Downloaded the Test Version of Rolemaster and it scrolls just fine.

I really appreciate all the work you have and are putting into this ruleset. Just on the testing I have done on the Local Client, the automation of the system is incredible. Now I just have to teach myself the ins and outs of building within the ruleset so I can transfer all of my old notes into this electronic version.

[Dakadin]

Hi Celenor,

Thanks for testing it and reminding me of the issue.

One hint, initially just try to enter what you will actually use for the first couple sessions. When I first started, I did a lot more work preparing than I really need to do.

If you have any questions about how things work, please create a post so we can answer them for you. ;)

[Celenor]

I can see the overload already, Dakadin, as I look at all of those old folders, notebooks, and gaming books. I will try and restrain my ambition until I am more familiar with it all, as difficult as that might be. I tended to go overboard when I was prepping games all those years ago. So I learned valuable lessons about all the unneeded information I spent so much time over, only to find the players fixated on some throw away line from a passing NPC.

I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and have already learned a lot about the actual XML layouts for future additions from the templates posted, as well as digging into the actual ruleset. There is a wealth of skill and experience here in this community so it doesn't seem so daunting knowing that there is such a helpful group to ask assistance from.

[JohnD]

Welcome!

Yeah definitely don't paralyze yourself by feeling like you need to enter everything before you get active with a game. Enter what you need as you go.

[Sulimo]

Hi Celenor,

Thanks for testing it and reminding me of the issue.

One hint, initially just try to enter what you will actually use for the first couple sessions. When I first started, I did a lot more work preparing than I really need to do.

If you have any questions about how things work, please create a post so we can answer them for you. ;)

That does indeed fix the issue I originally reported.

It also fixed an issue I have seen since I reported this one with the categories not working correctly, but I was not sure how to explain it.

This is how it used to look. Note the Rolemaster Classic Essentials and Rolemaster Classic Companions categories are a bit wonky here. The modules are not categorizing correctly for whatever reason.
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27268&stc=1&d=1556974707

This is how it looks in the Test version (same modules loaded as in the previous image, and the modules are categorized correctly):
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27267&stc=1&d=1556974700

(Hopefully the images loaded properly)

[Dakadin]

Thanks for testing it Sulimo.

[Sulimo]

Thanks for testing it Sulimo.

Thanks for all the work you have been doing.