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Drath3n
June 27th, 2016, 21:59
I am a new DM and I use FG mostly as a map tool because my players are local and just come over to the house. Someday I would like to get involved with an online group and maybe even DM when I get a little more experienced( with DMing and FG). I am thinking about diving in to 5th Ed. My question is how do I do it frugally. I am sure WoC would be happy if I bought all the Hard covers and all the digital books but my wallet is not that deep. So what should I get to get started? Would buying the starter kit and the digital books be the way to go or is it a situation where if I want to play in FG sessions and face to face sessions I need both version?

Zacchaeus
June 27th, 2016, 23:16
There's a few things to consider.

Having the PHB in digital format will make creating characters very easy to do and maintain using the drag and drop facilities that you'll get by owning that volume. Quite a bit of the PHB is already available free via the 5e SRD which you will find in your library if you have standard or ultimate license for FG. There is also a lot missing from that volume; much of the character archetype options; feats and backgrounds are not in the SRD.

If you play mainly purchased adventures then the DMG and the MM are not essential purchases since all of the digital adventures come with everything all set up ready to play including the NPCs and magic items. However if you create your own adventures then those volumes shift into more required purchases with the MM having slight precedence over the DMG (although, again, quite a few of the NPCs are in the SRD - without the images and backgrounds). Whilst you can create all the NPCs, magic items etc within FG the convenience of being able to drag and drop NPCs, magic items into encounters and parcels and also to create treasure parcels with a single dice roll really cuts down on preparation time.

There's a few posts already from people who use FG as a tabletop device and you'll find some further information here (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?25600-Using-FG-at-the-tabletop) and here (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-27205.html).

The thing is you can use the digital versions for face to face play as well as use the hardcovers for digital play. A lot depends on your budget and looking into the future where you are likely to be playing (table-top or digital).

Drath3n
June 28th, 2016, 00:15
Thank you for that,that helps a lot!!!

gqwebb
June 28th, 2016, 00:45
Welcome Aboard, Yes Fantasy Grounds PHB is the only starter needed. It will grow as no doubt but PHB away. Get it while the sale is one and your frugality will pay off :)

LordEntrails
June 28th, 2016, 01:17
Welcome.

As a point of reference, all of my 5E material I've only bought in FG format. I don't have hard covers of anything. I'm happy with this and it meets my needs. I play both online and face-to-face. But do note, that when I play f-t-f we still use FG. If I played/DM's in person without using FG I might feel differently, but even then I would still probably be happy if I only used FG to access the 'books'.

Drath3n
June 28th, 2016, 03:25
And to be specific, the PHB for FG is called the Complete Core Class Pack correct? Also as I bought the license through Steam do I need to get the "books" through steam? If I don't is there a agreed upon preference between The steam store and the Fantasy Grounds store? And thanks again for all the pointers :)

gqwebb
June 28th, 2016, 03:40
Well, I started with steam and just stayed that way. It is easier to pick up a steam 20 card sometimes. From what I gather you can do both but there is some lag back to steam. Yes that is the phb. BTW cool avatar best book series ever! Most okish movie ever.

Nylanfs
June 28th, 2016, 03:48
You want to get them one place or the other. The bundle deal can't track between the systems. If you get them from the Smiteworks store they get more of the profits, but Steam has regional prices which might make a difference.

Drath3n
June 28th, 2016, 04:07
Thanks all!! And that's Rooster Cogburn , I think you are mixing him up with Master Gregory from Seventh Son gqwebb,a movie I have yet to see :D

NicholasDM
June 28th, 2016, 18:36
The Steam sale looks like it makes the 5e stuff a lot more affordable.

Trenloe
June 28th, 2016, 18:42
The Steam sale looks like it makes the 5e stuff a lot more affordable.
The same/similar sale is on in the FG store.

As mentioned above, once you have purchased/subscribed to FG, buying DLC from either doesn't really matter (unless you're running on a Mac - buy DLC from the FG store if you're on a Mac). However, as also mentioned above, if you buy from the FG store more of the profits will go the FG and the developers of the product.

Varsuuk
July 7th, 2016, 16:45
And if you, like me, started on Steam - you can send an email to FG with proof of purchase (screeners/receipts) from Steam account to forum account then continue buying here for better cut of profits to FG.

However, if you are abroad from US, not sure if there are other issues that may name Steam better for you.

I just prefer to directly support the makers. That said, only reason I found FG was due to stumbling across it in Steam.