Cypher System Support [Archive] - Fantasy Grounds Forums

Stryfe484

April 10th, 2016, 14:36

I'm hoping to get a lot of positive feedback from our community regarding the cypher system. This is one of the best systems I've ever come across from a GM's perspective and I would like to see Monte Cook Games support fantasy grounds.
Apparently, they had a bad experience with one of their other systems on fantasy grounds. They are now supporting roll20.
I am an ultimate license holder and have invested a ton of money into this AWESOME program.
If enough of us show support for the Cypher System, maybe we can get MCG to give fantasy grounds another shot! If you're not familiar with the system, I'd be willing to do some one shot adventures for you all- as long as my wife approved of the date and time, that is!
Please, show your support so we can get another great system on this software we all love so much! Thank you so much!

Mike G.

Zhern

April 10th, 2016, 15:07

Stryfe484

April 10th, 2016, 15:47

As another Ultimate license holder who has also invested a ton of money into the Cypher System/Numenera/The Strange, I would love to see MCG support in FG. It would be mutually beneficial to both and would definitely help get them brand out there (for both - FG & MCG).

I agree! I've heard their support on roll20 is top notch. Imagine having a narrative system like this with MCG's backing on FG. It would be phenomenal!

Mask_of_winter

April 10th, 2016, 15:52

I've used the Numenera ruleset to run both Numenera and The Strange. I agree library modules would be great.

Stryfe484

April 10th, 2016, 15:55

I've used the Numenera ruleset to run both Numenera and The Strange. I agree library modules would be great.

I'm using the numenara ruleset tonight to run a game! Thanks for showing your support!

damned

April 10th, 2016, 16:52

This would be great to see!

JulioIP

April 10th, 2016, 17:03

Im in on this also, i think the system is a great system. So here is my vote. I would love to see it :)

Julio

Stryfe484

April 10th, 2016, 17:15

This would be great to see!

Thanks for your support! Hopefully we can show them how much we want this!

Stryfe484

April 10th, 2016, 17:18

Thanks, Julio! After playing d&d for 20 years, I was super excited to find this system. Something that is so rewarding and very easy for a GM, me, to set up and run, is a dream come true! Thanks for your vote!

TriOpticon

April 10th, 2016, 18:07

I would like to see more support for Cypher. I have yet to play but I like what I have read so far. I even backed their latest Kickstarter.

Stryfe484

April 10th, 2016, 18:10

I would like to see more support for Cypher. I have yet to play but I like what I have read so far. I even backed their latest Kickstarter.

I just put a one shot game up on the game calendar. I'm going to run several different games for people to try out. I just got into this system as well and also backed this kickstarter, my first ever kickstarter. I'm in love with this system. Join up here:
https://www.fantasygrounds.com/calendar/?id=1932

ianmward

April 10th, 2016, 23:03

Great work! I would love to see this happen.

Rimne

April 11th, 2016, 01:53

This easily gets my vote. I know for a fact that my gaming group would invest in numenera products if they were available, for the convenience. :)

Stryfe484

April 11th, 2016, 02:15

Great work! I would love to see this happen.

Thanks for the support! I just ran my first Sci-fi cypher system one shot tonight! It went very well! I misjudged the time slightly, but it was a great time! I'm so hoping to get official backing, but if nothing else we'll have fun running the games!

Stryfe484

April 11th, 2016, 02:17

This easily gets my vote. I know for a fact that my gaming group would invest in numenera products if they were available, for the convenience. :)

I agree wholeheartedly! Thanks for the vote! Maybe MCG will be surprised at how many of us are looking forward to this becoming a reality! This really is the best software for their game. A software that makes game prep easy for a game specifically designed for the same! It's a no brainer!

Stryfe484

April 11th, 2016, 11:47

Let's keep the momentum going, folks! Tell anyone you think would be interested. Send them here to put in their two cents! You can run ANYTHING with this system. Mech, sci-fi, fantasy, steam punk, horror, etc. It's such a versatile system and very rewarding to gm AND players. Let's bring this system to Fantasy Grounds and share the love with all of our groups!

TriOpticon

April 11th, 2016, 11:58

Stryfe484

April 11th, 2016, 12:12

Are there things missing from the existing Numenera ruleset that would be needed? I am not sure how up to date or extensive the ruleset is. Do we need to (or should we) make a Cypher ruleset or extension or something else?

I've only just started playing with the rule set. It has some nice features, but I need more time with it. It would be nice to have a cypher system ruleset with extensions for the strange and numenara.
I say this because both settings are based on the cypher system. You could just activate the rules you need for each setting. It would be nice to have libraries for all the cyphers, npcs, descriptors, foci, etc.
I don't have a programming background, yet, but I would like to look into these things. Thanks for the questions! Keep them coming so we can, hopefully, get people interested in making this happen!

TriOpticon

April 11th, 2016, 12:25

I have no idea how to do all this stuff in FG. Maybe I will try something simple like create a Cypher skin for the Numenera ruleset. See how that goes.

Stryfe484

April 11th, 2016, 14:19

I have no idea how to do all this stuff in FG. Maybe I will try something simple like create a Cypher skin for the Numenera ruleset. See how that goes.

I don't know how to, yet. I guess is time for me to learn. Maybe if we can create something more streamlined, MCG will take an interest.

Blahness98

April 11th, 2016, 14:44

I think when Numenera first came out, I started building a library for the core book. Unfortuately, I think either a hard drive wipe or failure killed those working files. Not that it would have mattered, as I could legally share my creation without threat of lawsuit for violating copyright. From what I recall, all I had in it was the classes and descriptors. Can't really remember too much about it.

But I would like to see some official content come out for the system. From what I have read, it sounds like a nice rules light system.

Stryfe484

April 11th, 2016, 14:50

I have no idea how to do all this stuff in FG. Maybe I will try something simple like create a Cypher skin for the Numenera ruleset. See how that goes.

I think when Numenera first came out, I started building a library for the core book. Unfortuately, I think either a hard drive wipe or failure killed those working files. Not that it would have mattered, as I could legally share my creation without threat of lawsuit for violating copyright. From what I recall, all I had in it was the classes and descriptors. Can't really remember too much about it.

But I would like to see some official content come out for the system. From what I have read, it sounds like a nice rules light system.

You could call it rules light, but it has all the necessary components for intense story and action that most of your more complex systems can create. My group had some crazy close calls last night in our sci-fi one shot. It was very awesome. It gives the players all the options they could ask for while making it super easy on the GM!
Thanks for your $0.02! Tell your friends about this thread so we can get some more people in here! We're cruising along so far!

TriOpticon

April 11th, 2016, 18:48

I think when Numenera first came out, I started building a library for the core book. Unfortuately, I think either a hard drive wipe or failure killed those working files. Not that it would have mattered, as I could legally share my creation without threat of lawsuit for violating copyright.Blahness98, I assume you meant to say you could NOT legally share your creation?

I was looking at their "policy" and it was not clear to me what they would allow. I know they would not allow a character builder if you had all the descriptive text for the abilities/powers/etc but I think you could use the name of the ability/power/etc as long as someone would need the book to understand how it worked.

Stryfe484

April 12th, 2016, 13:59

@Blahness98: Where can I go to learn how to make libraryour modules for rulesets on fantasy grounds?

TriOpticon

April 12th, 2016, 14:10

The wiki has some developer guides but I am not sure how thorough they are. I have yet to really dive into them.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/wiki/index.php/Developer_Guides

Stryfe484

April 12th, 2016, 14:24

The wiki has some developer guides but I am not sure how thorough they are. I have yet to really dive into them.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/wiki/index.php/Developer_Guides

I'll take a look. Thanks, TriOpticon!

Stryfe484

April 12th, 2016, 15:00

I'd be willing to start earlier, if it's easier for some of you. I may go ahead and extend the play time as well so you have time to acclimate yourselves to the characters and rules. I want you all to enjoy the game and get a decent grasp on the mechanics! Join in and invite a friend!

morgurth

April 13th, 2016, 01:16

I'd love to see official support for the Cypher System in Fantasy Grounds. I've supported all of Monte Cook Games kickstarters and am an Ultimate License holder.

Stryfe484

April 13th, 2016, 01:34

I'd love to see official support for the Cypher System in Fantasy Grounds. I've supported all of Monte Cook Games kickstarters and am an Ultimate License holder.

Thanks for your support! I will continue to show them how much we want this! Tell your friends to show their support as well!

Stryfe484

April 15th, 2016, 14:35

Let's try not to let this thread go stale, folks. Tell your friends and fellow adventurers about this so they can put their two cents in!

Stryfe484

April 20th, 2016, 13:52

Hopefully, after playing a few sessions, you guys will point your friends here. In the mean time, if you know anybody you think MAY be interested at all, please have them tell us so here!

dmkevin

April 20th, 2016, 21:53

i would be interested in this also.

Stryfe484

April 20th, 2016, 23:28

i would be interested in this also.

Great, thank you! Have any of you ever played the Cypher system, Numenera, or The Strange before? What do you like most about them? Which is your favorite? Which genres are you most excited to see made using the Cypher system?
I would like to make a Shadowrun Setting with these rules! I love the world and back story of the game, but there are far too many rules for me to enjoy it as a GM. I think somebody is converting it already. I would love to see his take on it.

TriOpticon

April 25th, 2016, 19:12

Stryfe484

April 26th, 2016, 03:23

Just wanted to say that Stryfe484 ran a fun one-shot session last night (April 24th). I am new to Cypher (never played before) and have only played in 1 FG game before then. While I was not quite sure what to click at times in FG, I found the Cypher system to be a lot of fun and fairly easy to pick up. I am not an expert now but I certainly have a better feel for it.

Hopefully MCG connects with SmiteWorks and gets an official Cypher System ruleset made.

TriOpticon, I appreciate the endorsement! Thanks for helping me make it an exceptional game. Any game is only successful because of its players and the Cypher System gives the players the tools to play the characters they want.
Let's get the message to MCG that we want them to back Fantasy Grounds as a system that helps gms prep for games and players to play the games they want. This is the same goal they envisioned when they designed the system!
Thanks in advance for your help!

hawkwind

April 26th, 2016, 12:43

It would be nice to see an official ruleset but in the mean time a editable enhanced library module like the one for Savage worlds would be a great addition so you could enter your own material easily

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?19202-Savage-Worlds-Enhancement-Extensions&p=152731&viewfull=1#post152731

Stryfe484

April 26th, 2016, 14:57

dmkevin

April 26th, 2016, 19:28

I have the Numenera rules i bought online about two months ago and they look really interesting. I don't really know other cyper rules games but would be happy to try this sometime.

Stryfe484

April 26th, 2016, 20:42

I have the Numenera rules i bought online about two months ago and they look really interesting. I don't really know other cyper rules games but would be happy to try this sometime.

Please do! You can sign up for a game here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/calendar/?id=1932

Stryfe484

April 29th, 2016, 13:07

There is a lot of interest so far! If you want to check out the Cypher System, please sign up on the game calendar for my one shot games.
If you like the session, please come back here and tell us you would like to see some official support for this system!

Stryfe484

May 4th, 2016, 12:18

I've received a reply from Monte Cook Games. They are putting me into contact with their new Community Relations Coordinator, Sean Reynolds. Hopefully, I'll receive some good news soon! Keep on sending interested people to this thread!

TriOpticon

May 4th, 2016, 12:19

That is good news.

dmkevin

May 5th, 2016, 00:03

Very encouraging. Let's hope we can get official support.

David32780

May 5th, 2016, 06:26

Come on MCG, your kickstarter backers want the support for FG also.

Stryfe484

May 5th, 2016, 10:11

That is good news.

Very encouraging. Let's hope we can get official support.

Come on MCG, your kickstarter backers want the support for FG also.

Hear, hear! I'm also a kickstarter! I just backed the latest one. I can't wait for the products to start rolling out!

Vudo

July 10th, 2016, 08:12

Me too! I want the Cypher System for Fantasy Grounds! :)

Paul Pratt

July 14th, 2016, 05:40

Please bring the Cypher System to Fantasy Grounds!

Krimson

July 14th, 2016, 15:54

That would give me a reason to use the books I have.

Talyn

July 14th, 2016, 16:56

@Stryfe Any reply from MCG's Community Manager yet? I'd love for Cypher to have official licensing here.

Stryfe484

July 14th, 2016, 17:23

@Stryfe Any reply from MCG's Community Manager yet? I'd love for Cypher to have official licensing here.

I still haven't heard from him. I'll give Tammie another shot out to see what's going on. Thanks for the support!

Stx11

August 1st, 2016, 19:00

I'm new to FG, but I own a whole slew of Numenera products as well as Cypher Core.

I really hope MCG decides to officially support Fantasy Grounds as well.

Roll20 is great but the level of possible automation in FG is so amazing!

Talyn

August 1st, 2016, 21:17

Same here, I own the majority of the Cypher products and backed the latest Kickstarter as well. All this despite never having actually played once because around here people just look at you funny if you mention that RPGs other than D&D and Pathfinder actually exist.

Qoff

September 18th, 2016, 00:46

Amen to this thread.

Fobok

September 21st, 2016, 19:16

I've been playing in Stryfe's Gods of the Fall (Cypher System) game and I have to say it's a fantastic system. I would happily buy library/system modules for Fantasy Grounds if they were available.

damned

September 21st, 2016, 22:40

Hola Fobok = not what you are after but jump in on this game: https://www.fg-con.com/events/rite-of-spring-gods-of-the-fall/

Stryfe484

September 21st, 2016, 23:50

Hola Fobok = not what you are after but jump in on this game: https://www.fg-con.com/events/rite-of-spring-gods-of-the-fall/

Thanks for the publicity, Damned. I'll definitely make time to do this game, but I had to postpone the game Fobok is referring to. I'm looking forward to the con!

Apoc013

September 22nd, 2016, 00:44

i am enjoying the game heaps, great system to play

Archamus

December 17th, 2016, 03:30

Looks like it has gone stale, but I just messaged montecook games about working with fantasy grounds, so I figure I'll raise a second Numenera related thread from the dead.

morgurth

December 29th, 2016, 21:14

I'd like to see more support as well.

The Dreaminel

February 12th, 2017, 03:40

Here is another client ready to buy a Strange module for FG on release day, no hesitation. I already have the books, and would pay again for the modules. Please MCG, dont only support Roll20, we are nice people here :-)

LindseyFan

February 12th, 2017, 08:59

Please, pretty please! I want to play Numenera.

Talyn

February 12th, 2017, 12:02

Unfortunately, SmiteWorks has said no more rulesets this year. Their schedule is fully booked with the 5E and Pathfinder content plus trying to get FGU out the door. So if MCG is willing to talk it sounds like it'll be 2018 before SW can make the time to work on it.

Trenloe

February 12th, 2017, 13:59

There's already a Numenera ruleset. There just isn't official support - so no rulebook modules, scenarios, etc..

The Dreaminel

February 13th, 2017, 04:57

There's already a Numenera ruleset. There just isn't official support - so no rulebook modules, scenarios, etc..

Yes I know, I already downloaded it. But as you said, it the official support I am after :-)

morgurth

February 25th, 2017, 01:09

Any more work being done on this? I was looking at doing something similar and didn't want to duplicate effort.

Talyn

February 25th, 2017, 01:11

Nothing new, and SmiteWorks has taken it off the table for 2017 anyway. Only option for now is to use the existing ruleset and make your own local copies of sourcebooks, etc. just don't distribute them.

Duck-Slayer

February 26th, 2017, 00:47

First post, new-user long-time lurker, I purchased FG specifically for an upcoming face-2-face numenera game I'll be DMing. I also hope MCG realizes their market here. I made the decision because of the offline capabilities of FG. I work overseas a lot and do not always have access to the internet (something you kind of need in order to do anything with roll20) not to mention the price of FG was substantially more value and didn't feel as clunky (I program exploratory robots for a living so the "programmer-minded" interface of FG just makes sense to me). I do most of my module authoring while hunkered down on the ocean or in countries where internet consists of smoke signals and carrier pigeons. If MCG gives official support I would love to share many of the things I have been authoring and playing around with, really digging FG as a GM tool. Still trying to hammer out a random-cypher generator that outputs parcels and rolls against various tables to randomize them...Maybe I will have it together by the time MCG realizes what they are missing with this platform. Oh I am also one of those wack-o's that plays on a horizontal TV connected as digital playmat with minis on it outputted from a laptop...Shout-out to other people doing this, noticed other people do this here and even an extension was built for it...Here I thought I was the only one.

damned

February 26th, 2017, 00:55

Welcome Duck-Slayer - they sound intriguing!

Bidmaron

February 26th, 2017, 13:55

You have entered a great world, Duck-Slayer. As you probably note, this is a very friendly and helpful community.

Stryfe484

July 4th, 2017, 02:26

I just sent the new community manager, Darcy Ross, a message regarding this ruleset. I let her know this was probably the best time to get ahold of the devs since they are designing a new program. If you want certain features, now is the time to get in on the action!

We'll see how it goes. I'm hoping for the best!

Stryfe484

July 4th, 2017, 13:16

Here is the response to my e-mail, as well as the original I sent:

Hi Mike!

Thank you so much for the kind welcome!

Virtual Tabletops are a pretty strong love of mine, but I also know the pain of setting up a VTT for custom rulesets, setting/map material, tokens, etc. It's often worth doing, but it takes so much time. When you can get good premade content & structure for the game you're going to play, it's usually well worth the money to just have it set up for you. I'm totally with you!

It's really good to know that FG is overhauling their system - I'll get into contact with them tomorrow. With me just getting started, and with MCG gearing up for Gen Con, I can't promise the significant move forward on this that I'd like, but I can tell you that I will start that conversation with FG for sure!

One thing I worry about is that we're such a small team, will we be able to get the manpower to create really stunning and effective content and structure for Cypher games on FG? What do you feel like would be the minimum unit of content that would be super helpful to have from MCG on FG?

Once we're past Gen Con, I can devote some more research time to this, but thanks for sharing your thoughts with me!

Best,

Darcy

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 6:22 PM, stryfe484 <[email protected]> wrote:

Darcy,

First and foremost, CONGRATULATIONS!!! I'm happy someone as dedicated as you made it to the big leagues!

Secondly, I wanted to ask about something that has been partially discussed and then mysteriously everyone stops responding. This is in regards to Virtual Tabletops or VTT's.

MCG currently supports roll20 with content, but there are several people at Fantasy Grounds who have been clamoring for support. You can read the thread here:*https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?30763-Cypher-System-Support/page7

MCG is missing out on a whole other batch of customers. I would like to see a ruleset upgrade for the Numenera ruleset, or change it to Cypher with a Numenera, The Strange, Gods of the Fall, and Predation sub-rulesets.

Fantasy Grounds is working on an overhaul of their current software. This would be the perfect time to contact them. I've put a lot of money into this program because it is a phenomenal tool.

It was never developed as a map program, but a way for online users to interact as if they were at the table. Please, try to contact them. I would really appreciate it and I know many others would as well!

Thanks for your time, and congrats again!

-Mike Greszler (MCG Asset Team Member)

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

Trenloe

July 4th, 2017, 18:11

Thanks for the update. This highlights that there is a disconnect between MCG and what would be expected from them. Assuming reliable community devs could be engaged to produce material, there's little MCG would have to do for FG products to be produced, in terms of assigned manpower, etc..

Maybe their model with Roll20 is different and they have to produce the material themselves. I doubt that would be he model with FG content.

Stryfe484

July 4th, 2017, 20:45

I said much the same in the reply I sent:

Well, the FG team captured the essence of the system. There are things that need added in to fully realize it's potential, but I'll have to get back to you to on "the minimum unit of content that would be super helpful to have from MCG on FG." I never thought to think small.

I may be wrong, but I think the FG team does all the coding for the rulesets. I think they just want the permission to use your content.

I suppose they may want art customized to certain dimensions. They currently offer the ruleset for free. As in the skeletal rules, not fully fleshed out character creation, etc. You may have to work with them to let them know what could be expanded on in the free ruleset, then what kind of things could be available in the expansion packs.*

If you get the time, check out their d&d 5e ruleset. They have the free srd version that can give you an idea of what things could be like. I could even host a session for you to see the full power of the 5e ruleset with added content.

I'll see if I can get a list together on what's necessary to have, nice to have, and want to have.

Thanks, Darcy! Good luck in all of your endeavors!

Mike Greszler

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

Talyn

July 4th, 2017, 21:22

SmiteWorks doesn't code all the rulesets, but in this case Moon Wizard did code the free Numenera ruleset as a quickie so he could play with his personal group. He does have plans for a full Cypher System ruleset which would allow the individual games (Numenera, The Strange, etc.) to be handled with extensions, similar to how Savage Worlds works. But without a licensing agreement there's no return on investment so the whole thing just sits in "wouldn't it be nice?" land.

If MCG is willing to discuss an agreement, however, and Moon is still up for coding CSR, I'll be the first community developer to put his hand up and wave it around to produce the DLC.

MadBeardMan

July 9th, 2017, 16:09

I cross my fingers. I did ask Doug not so long ago and he told me that the 'boat had sailed', such a shame as I've recently got the Numenera bug. Anyway let's hope something happens.

Talyn

July 9th, 2017, 16:54

My fingers are crossed too. I know MCG licensed already with Roll20 but competition is good and the more licenses they have, the more royalties they get. WotC and Paizo are licensed both here and Roll20 as well, and that's a good thing. Hopefully Darcy knows this and is able to open some minds over there. MCG doesn't have to do any work other than possibly supplying SmiteWorks the PDFs and art asset PSD so we have better source material to work with for the conversion.

lordjeb

August 16th, 2017, 21:06

I would be interested in this as well. I've would be interested in doing a Spycraft-like game based on Cypher, but only really play on FG.

ProfDogg

September 10th, 2017, 00:18

I am planning on running a Numenera game next Saturday for my regular group. It is ridiculously easy to input the campaign material and have the system ready (with the exception of locating good art and having it available - doing lots of snipped images from the pdf's and saving them as png's which just takes some time). What I've discovered during play-testing though is that since the automated functions aren't there it slows my game down to a crawl while I go through and adjust numbers and such. I would really like to see a fully integrated Cypher System ruleset here, not to mention a full published library.

lordjeb

September 10th, 2017, 06:29

Would there be a possibility of creating and maintaining a community ruleset? I'm only one developer with pretty limited FG scripting experience, but if there were a few of us, who took a copy of the Numenara ruleset and turned it into a CypherSystem ruleset with better support? Would SmiteWorks be opposed to us basically copying that ruleset and improving it, and sharing it around the community, with SW themselves having the ability to include update versions with FG?

Moon Wizard

September 10th, 2017, 11:26

We wouldn't be against that at all. I welcome contributions to improve any rulesets, or even to create a newer and better ones.

The Numenera ruleset was built to support my campaign a while back, and as something to present to MCG as a proof of concept. Since we haven't been able to get a license to publish Cypher system content (and I'm not running a Numenera game any more), the ruleset is only receiving maintenance updates currently.

Remember, due to copyright considerations, no one can distribute any data modules for the Cypher system or settings, so that may influence your approach.

Regards,
JPG

ProfDogg

September 10th, 2017, 12:02

Had a pleasant surprise in my Facebook conversation with MCG re FG:

Monte Cook Games: "It's on our plate for sure, but early stages. If there's something specific you're looking for, it'll be great to know that now! What resources do you and your group most want to see?"

My response:

"The core books and the integrated mechanics are the most essential. Cypher/Numenera adventures are easy enough to make but not having the core books to just slide material into a window means you have to reinvent the wheel each time. And the auto-mechanics in FG need that core library to be fully functional like it is for 5e and Pathfinder. After that - illustrations and art!!! It takes a while to go through Pinterest and DeviantArt to find just the right visual resource. After that, every source-book you've got could go in there because they're all so very thick with detail. I've put a lot of effort into planning to run the Vortex adventure in FG this Saturday (weeks of 5 minutes here and 10 minutes there) and it will be the first introduction to MCG that this group will have. If they like it, it'd be nice to have somewhere to go from there."

trobadork

September 19th, 2017, 13:35

Hi board !
MCG launches a kickstarter for Numenera 2 this day. I think it's a great opportunity to discuss about a full ruleset in the KS commentaries...

MadBeardMan

September 23rd, 2017, 23:15

Hi board !
MCG launches a kickstarter for Numenera 2 this day. I think it's a great opportunity to discuss about a full ruleset in the KS commentaries...

Try asking them then again, I've backed the new KS, silly brain.

GM BK

May 16th, 2018, 21:11

Adding my name to the list of folks that would like to see this ruleset available for FG :)

Krimson

May 16th, 2018, 23:59

Ignore this. Got systems mixed up in my head.

Ken L

May 19th, 2018, 11:30

Stryfe484

May 19th, 2018, 12:18

Is there any movement in this area? I've been meaning to make my own cypher system but I'm more inclined to wait for FGU given the piping change ahead. There's also the issue of wine support starting to get sketchy too, native on linux can't come soon enough.

After giving Darcy and e-mail adress to one of the coders at Smiteworks, she finally replied. Here's the message:
"Hi Mike!
I am FINALLY following up on this. I believe I threw out a rando email at FG at some point but it never went anywhere, but now I'm skeptical that I've ever sent it! In any case, it sounds like a solveable problem and I am on it. Thank you for hooking me up with this Dev.
Best,
Darcy"

Stryfe484

May 19th, 2018, 12:19

I should have said this message was received on April 3rd.

Talyn

May 19th, 2018, 15:37

Darcy contacted me a month or so ago. I gave her a brief explanation of how the process for FG actually works, as I had inferred from multiple conversations that MCG was under the impression they would have to code stuff themselves, which is obviously not in their wheelhouse. I referred her to Doug and The Gang, and hopefully this bears fruit this time around. I've already requested to be involved in the reference material process if this happens, but I won't be kept in any loop until or unless an agreement is met between the two companies. So that's where things stand currently based on my last communications with anyone on the matter.

Ken L

May 19th, 2018, 15:39

Implementing the rule-set shouldn't raise any major concern as only those with the physical rules can play, but the ruleset facilitates that happening onf FG.

I hope that the the Cypher Ruleset is like the 5e one, open for everyone to increase accessibility, but to get things like the book's cyphers or other material you'd need the module.

Stryfe484

May 20th, 2018, 01:27

ProfDogg

July 9th, 2018, 22:30

Talyn

July 9th, 2018, 22:48

MCG does not have an Open Gaming License whatsoever. The one that applies to DriveThruRPG is their Small Publisher License which utilizes the Cypher System Creator at DriveThru. The potential catch there is that I'm seeing on the MCG site that it specifically states PDF, no other type of media. That's the same "gotcha!" with licensing between Pinnacle and Palladium and the reason Savage Rifts cannot be officially released here on Fantasy Grounds.

@Moon Wizard is aware that I'm interested in working on Cypher System DLC, but I've not heard a peep back since I referred Darcy to contact Doug a few months ago.

Trenloe

July 9th, 2018, 22:56

Does anyone know if the Open Gaming License for Cypher System games extends to FG creations? Drivethru has a few OGL products and I'm thinking that even if we can't sell them on FG's store site because of limitations then at least we could sell them at Drivethru like how AAW does it for 5e products.
There isn't actually an OGL for the Cypher System.

The products on DTRPG are part of the Cypher System Creator program which, according to the licensing page, allows you to produce product PDFs and sell them through the program on DTRPG. It doesn't mentioned anything about other product types.

More info on the various options available to produce Cypher system is available here: https://cypher-system.com/fan-use-and-licensing/

Maybe reach out to MCG to see if the Cypher System Creator program applies to Fantasy Grounds products.

Of course, the next issue you'll have is that there really isn't much support for the Cypher System on Fantasy Grounds. There's the basic Numenera ruleset, but that is it. So it would be interesting as to what FG Cypher system products you had in mind?

ProfDogg

July 9th, 2018, 23:18

There isn't actually an OGL for the Cypher System.

The products on DTRPG are part of the Cypher System Creator program which, according to the licensing page, allows you to produce product PDFs and sell them through the program on DTRPG. It doesn't mentioned anything about other product types.

More info on the various options available to produce Cypher system is available here: https://cypher-system.com/fan-use-and-licensing/

Maybe reach out to MCG to see if the Cypher System Creator program applies to Fantasy Grounds products.

Of course, the next issue you'll have is that there really isn't much support for the Cypher System on Fantasy Grounds. There's the basic Numenera ruleset, but that is it. So it would be interesting as to what FG Cypher system products you had in mind?

One filled with a lot of hope... hope that MCG will turn around and better support FG (at least as much as it does Roll20 but even that is currently minimal)...

optiondelete

April 8th, 2020, 20:37

I'll add my voice to this. I own FGC Ultimate, and the entire Numenera Catalog, yet I would STILL pay to have the cypher system content available in FG.

Trenloe

April 8th, 2020, 20:45

I'll add my voice to this. I own FGC Ultimate, and the entire Numenera Catalog, yet I would STILL pay to have the cypher system content available in FG.
Email Monte Cook Games with you're request, that's where this isn't going anywhere.

ericbrooke

September 29th, 2020, 02:56

What are people doing without MCG support. Are there unofficial DLCs people are using?

Moon Wizard

September 29th, 2020, 02:59

There are existing rulesets for Cypher/Numenera/The Strange that come bundled with FG; but without any data. You can enter the data as you need to play (as I did when I ran a campaign).

Without some sort of SRD-style agreement from MCG, or official publishing relationship; data packs can not be made available by either SmiteWorks nor anyone on the forums. Please reach out to MCG, and let them know you want to be able to buy packs on FG.

Regards,
JPG

pneusodym

October 1st, 2020, 04:12

I'm really rather new at FGU, so I'm wondering where I should be looking for directions on creating effects (and modifiers) within the Cypher System ruleset? I know there's no official support, and we can't share modules, so I'm just looking for direction on how to write them/use them - I can't figure out how you're suppose to apply them to pools, etc., and the help link simply takes you to a generic about effects page. Any help or direction would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Pneusodym

Moon Wizard

October 1st, 2020, 04:56

There is no effects automation in the Cypher ruleset. The effects listing in that system ruleset is just for notes, and tracking basic turn durations.

Regards,
JPG

Tolk63

November 5th, 2020, 00:57

Showing support for this as well!

Trenloe

November 5th, 2020, 10:30

Showing support for this as well!
Write to Monte Cook Games asking for them to provide a license for content conversions to Fantasy Grounds.

TenchiOni

February 6th, 2021, 20:50

I wrote to Monty Cook Games asking for them to provide a license for content. They told me they are passing the request along to the uppers.

damned

February 7th, 2021, 00:53

That is only half of the equation.
It also requires someone to complete the coding and do the reference conversions.

Moon Wizard

February 7th, 2021, 00:59

Yeah, but publisher approval has always been the gate for MCG products for the last several years.

Regards,
JPG

Smagaard Fowlbreath

March 2nd, 2021, 16:18

Absolutely - Ultimate license holder. About to run Numenera full time. I'd like to do that here on the best VTT around, but if not then elsewhere unfortunately.

dnquxiti

April 22nd, 2021, 03:08

Just adding on to the list, I'd like to see Numenera available in Fantasy Grounds as well, as I am about to trial run switching my group to it.

Moon Wizard

April 22nd, 2021, 05:10

Please contact Monte Cook Games to let them know you'd like to see Numenera officially on Fantasy Grounds. We do not currently have permission to publish material.

Regards,
JPG

frostbyte000jm

April 23rd, 2021, 01:15

Contacted and would support.

dellanx

November 1st, 2021, 19:27

Started playing Cypher, love it!

Rhenny

March 1st, 2023, 23:15

I funded Cypher for PDFs. I would definitely buy content for FGU and run games. Make it so!

scoolio

December 14th, 2024, 18:14

I play in a recurring Cypher System game on Foundry and LOVE the system as a player. I too own all the PDFS for cypher and love the mechanic. I run sessions on Foundry as well and I am also an old school Ultimate license user for Fantasy Grounds but as of yet have not trnsitioned my games over to FG Unity yet. Getting Cypher over to FG would make transitioning easier.

Moon Wizard

December 15th, 2024, 06:17

The mechanics of the Cypher system are already available as part of the standard FG install (Rulesets are Cypher, Numenera and The Strange).
There is no data available, since MCG has not allowed licensing of the data; but all the mechanics are there. I'm assuming that Foundry wouldn't have the data either for the same reason.

Are you just looking for support for the rules to play; or does someone have a license on Foundry to provide the data? If so, do you have a link?

Regards,
JPG

wndrngdru

December 21st, 2024, 03:39

I run a weekly Cypher game in the Ptolus setting. The rulesets are fully functional though, as Moon stated, it's pretty much enter your own stuff at this point.

@Moon Wizard - MCG has provided the CSRD, which includes all of the Cypher System Rulebook as well as a LOT of the stuff from their "white book" expansions. What's NOT in the CSRD is anything Numenera (though generic versions of most of the Cyphers show up in the CSRD), Predation, or The Strange. Those are off limits to anyone but MCG. It also doesn't cover other IPs, such as Old Gods of Appalachia, Magnus Archives, and Shotguns and Sorcery.

Foundry has a fairly robust Cypher community with a few active devs on their ruleset and CSRD (which I believe is complete at this point). It's kind of, at least outwardly, the VTT of choice over on the Cypher Unlimited Discord. That said, I don't like it. I find it unintuitive and difficult to get set up, which is why I keep pushing requests and bug reports Saagael's way. :D

I have been working on creating a CSRD module, but it's slow going, with development happening in fits and starts. I have all the base Types, Flavors, and Descriptors with their corresponding Abilities entered as well as all the Cyphers (I got help from a couple other FG users on those). The Foci and their associated abilities is what's taking the longest though I'm roughly halfway through those. The monolithic CSRD document MCG provides is pushing a thousand pages at this point and they keep adding to it every time they publish new stuff.

I've been thinking I should just release what I have to the Forge and let people use what's there to perhaps speed up getting started with the system as well as give examples of how abilities are entered and used with the effects framework Saagael has baked into the rulesets. (I suppose it would also put a boot to my rear to get it finished if I know people are using it.)