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Larac
May 9th, 2015, 04:32
Hey all,

I used DJ for quite awhile I liked how it worked.

The New version just will not work for me, tried all the workarounds it just is busted.
Pc on that one, once I tried the fixes now it will just give errors.
The Mac version will not work as it is a Power PC app.

So I have to give it up.

I am looking for something that worked like it did, fairly simple but I can to the tile like stuff then add in other features.
I do not mind a small cost, just need it to work and not have a few ton extra options that I have no use for.

Doing mostly battle map style stuff for FG.
So need to me able to set of scenes without having to become a graphics expert.

Have huge data amount of pgn files from DJ, but need something to use them with.

Used CC2 few years back, but found it heavy for just setting a scene.
Tried a few of the online ones but most are limited on using my data or want me to pay to get my map every time, which seems wrong to me.
Willing to buy a service but not be extorted.

So if you used DJ and/or have a good replacement please let me know.

Lee

damned
May 9th, 2015, 05:31
Hey Larac - there doesnt seem to be too many other options to those two. Ive gone to buy DJ so many times but the website has been down more often than (mostly 2011-2012) and lttle seems to have changed on the site in the last 2 years so I never did. I just dont really have the need for CC at its price. I havent really found other competitors doing what they do.

These are the products I do use - It depends on how fussy/demanding you want to be with maps but I can usually output a completely satisfactory (for my needs anyway) map from one of my two favourite sources in 5-15mins:

http://pyromancers.com/dungeon-painter-online
http://www.mapeditor.org/ combined with http://www.rpgartkits.com/#section-purchase or http://www.wyldfurr.com/index.php/product-category/maps/

Sometimes Ill do a little touch up or add a grid etc in http://www.gimp.org/downloads/

Trenloe
May 9th, 2015, 05:36
There's Fractal Mapper: http://www.nbos.com/products/fractal-mapper/screen-shots

I picked it up when it was on special a while back, but haven't really used it so can't comment on it's features and use. I'm a CC fan myself...

Larac
May 9th, 2015, 06:12
Thanks all, trying to get stuff into pyro now.
Got a few things in, so far.

Really sad as DJ worked really well for this stuff, but they will not even re do the install files to work on Win 7 let alone beyond.

I like CC for overland big stuff seems difficult for a quick woods, with cave thing.

Trenloe how do find CC for Battle maps, maybe I am just missing something?

But thanks again, instead of making maps trying to learn new software, so behind another night, players going to get worried.
:)


Does not help my drawing skills are surpassed by many 4 year olds.

damned
May 9th, 2015, 06:26
There's Fractal Mapper: http://www.nbos.com/products/fractal-mapper/screen-shots

I picked it up when it was on special a while back, but haven't really used it so can't comment on it's features and use. I'm a CC fan myself...

Doh! I just checked... I bought this one on sale too... never used it though....

damned
May 9th, 2015, 06:32
Thanks all, trying to get stuff into pyro now.
Got a few things in, so far.

Really sad as DJ worked really well for this stuff, but they will not even re do the install files to work on Win 7 let alone beyond.

I like CC for overland big stuff seems difficult for a quick woods, with cave thing.

Trenloe how do find CC for Battle maps, maybe I am just missing something?

But thanks again, instead of making maps trying to learn new software, so behind another night, players going to get worried.
:)


Does not help my drawing skills are surpassed by many 4 year olds.

Larac - quick tips for Pyro -
Everything is on separate layer. if you need that wall to be UNDER the tree thats already there...
Polyline walls usually give better results (because of the "always on" shadow) than just Lines.
Use a different type of wall to do Doors - there are no doors - or add doors afterwards in GiMP.
Learn how to use the Arc Lines. Try making a 1 square Arc Lines and drag out. Make a 3 square Arc Line and drag out. You can see that they both have their use.

Larac
May 9th, 2015, 07:10
Thanks Damned
Question How do you rotate on Tiled?
Looked at docs and could not find it.

Pyro looks close to DJ just a bit clunky, going to have to get my fx into it and see what I can make it do.

Thanks again, so much to get done and still spinning my wheels so to speak.

Hate learning new software :)

damned
May 9th, 2015, 07:29
Thanks Damned
Question How do you rotate on Tiled?
Looked at docs and could not find it.

I dont think you can. I make a tile sheet and then grab everything i need off there as it is...



Pyro looks close to DJ just a bit clunky, going to have to get my fx into it and see what I can make it do.

Thanks again, so much to get done and still spinning my wheels so to speak.

Hate learning new software :)

I like Pyro - its limited but I can make decent enough maps in it real quick. Sometimes i make the building in Tiled and the grounds, forest in Pyro and GiMP one on top of the other :)

Larac
May 9th, 2015, 08:34
OK I just thought I was missing it some how.
Thanks again

sukEEt
May 9th, 2015, 11:53
Everyone should use GIMP .. just sayin' ...

damned
May 9th, 2015, 13:50
Everyone should use GIMP .. just sayin' ...

GiMP is good - but you should try some of those others too :)

sukEEt
May 9th, 2015, 15:45
gimp is good - but you should try some of those others too :)

blasphemy!!!

Trenloe
May 9th, 2015, 15:51
Trenloe how do find CC for Battle maps, maybe I am just missing something?
I find it excellent, especially with the DD3 add on. See Joe Sweeney's videos on that here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1FFD4E50759762F1


Question How do you rotate on Tiled?
Z and SHIFT+Z: https://github.com/bjorn/tiled/wiki/Keyboard-Shortcuts

Larac
May 9th, 2015, 20:12
Thanks will look.
May look at gimp, but it seems over kill.

damned
May 10th, 2015, 02:58
I find it excellent, especially with the DD3 add on. See Joe Sweeney's videos on that here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1FFD4E50759762F1


Z and SHIFT+Z: https://github.com/bjorn/tiled/wiki/Keyboard-Shortcuts

Thanks Trenloe!

sukEEt
May 11th, 2015, 17:04
Thanks will look.
May look at gimp, but it seems over kill.

Once again ... BLASPHEMY! ... mehehe ... you can make some pretty simple stuff with GIMP in minutes once you know where everything is ... you can also down load this huge library of images for fantasy map making (I haven't used it in such a long time, that I have forgotten the name.)

there is also a youtube video, I think it is called "how to dead sexy maps" that give you a good start.

seycyrus
May 12th, 2015, 03:42
...I think it is called "how to dead sexy maps" that give you a good start.

sukEET, do you know where to find the zip file that is mentioned in this video? I don't think it exists where it used to. Do you have the download?

sukEEt
May 12th, 2015, 19:07
sukEET, do you know where to find the zip file that is mentioned in this video? I don't think it exists where it used to. Do you have the download?

http://www.vintyri.org/CSUAC/download.htm


I think this is a site...

it is called the CSUAC ... I have it but it is too big to send you ... it is freaking huge

seycyrus
May 12th, 2015, 22:27
http://www.vintyri.org/CSUAC/download.htm
...it is called the CSUAC ...

Oh! I know about CSUAC, I use CC3 etc. I didn't know those were the same files. Thanks.

Larac
May 13th, 2015, 17:38
Once again ... BLASPHEMY! ... mehehe ... you can make some pretty simple stuff with GIMP in minutes once you know where everything is ... you can also down load this huge library of images for fantasy map making (I haven't used it in such a long time, that I have forgotten the name.)

there is also a youtube video, I think it is called "how to dead sexy maps" that give you a good start.

That is the issue so many buttons, so many ways to use the wrong one. :)
Terms also causes issues one program calls it X the other Y, it is a mess at times to do the simple things.

Downloaded it, but already behind because of DJ issues, promise I will look at it.

Xydonus
May 13th, 2015, 19:52
You having issues with Dundjinni?

If its an install issue with the final version then what you need to do is uninstall Java, and install Java 2, an old version. It's a known problem that I ran into and was able to fix it. Assuming that is the issue your having.

Once your installed, uninstall Java 2 and reinstall the latest Java. Sorted.

Larac
May 14th, 2015, 00:07
Tried that now the install works but when try to run gets a JIN error, each step it got worse and worse.
But thanks for trying.

sukEEt
May 15th, 2015, 13:57
That is the issue so many buttons, so many ways to use the wrong one. :)
Terms also causes issues one program calls it X the other Y, it is a mess at times to do the simple things.

Downloaded it, but already behind because of DJ issues, promise I will look at it.

yep, it is tough in the beginning with GIMP. I will give you that. If you have any questions let me know.

Larac
May 16th, 2015, 02:14
Thanks, lots to do before Weds.