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jhall6766
April 15th, 2015, 23:07
Hi,
I just recently invested in the complete DragonLance 1E series... SO now Im looking through the FG rulesets and trying to figure out which Ruleset would be easiest to convert or use for running these games.....

GunnarGreybeard
April 16th, 2015, 01:02
Unless you use the OSRIC ruleset you'll need to convert to C&C or D&D5e. C&C may be less work but personally, I would convert to 5e.

jhall6766
April 16th, 2015, 02:22
What tools would be needed to convert these over to 5E or C & C ... Ive never really tried to do conversions before... I have both the 5E as well as C&C rulesets.. IS there anything else I would need....

damned
April 16th, 2015, 02:23
C&C would be the simplest.
5e would be a nice changeup though.


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JohnD
April 16th, 2015, 03:00
I'd go with C&C myself. You will find yourself changing the least amount of content.

Mask_of_winter
April 16th, 2015, 03:00
This might be helpful: http://swshinn.com/dnd-5e/5e-to-1e-combat-tracker/

jhall6766
April 16th, 2015, 04:04
Thank You all for the advice.... I appreciate it

Trenloe
April 16th, 2015, 05:35
To do a conversion you either need to be familiar with both systems, or not care if your conversion to the new system is accurate/challenge appropriate/etc.. I've spent hours and hours in the past trying to do an accurate statistics conversion from one system to the other - but is it really necessary? You're playing the Dragonlance series because it's the Dragonlance series, not because it has cool NPC challenges everywhere that you need to convert accurately. For most encounters use standard NPCs from the MM (or similar) - keeping a similar encounter challenge level. For detailed NPCs you may need to build them from scratch or just do a rough approximation in your new system. Don't spend lots of time converting statistics, just replace with already available NPCs etc. in the new system - change the names and some things in the stats if you want something different.

jhall6766
April 16th, 2015, 18:15
Thanks Trenloe,
It seems a daunting task to convert all these.. I imagine this will all need to be done in script....Im familiar with both C & C as well as D&D5E... However I am no expert..

Trenloe
April 16th, 2015, 18:47
I imagine this will all need to be done in script...
I'm not sure what you're referring to here. The Dragonlance 1E series you mention you have is physical books/PFSs right? It's not in Fantasy Grounds at the moment?

If it's not in Fantasy Grounds then you will need to build the scenario modules manually - I'd recommend doing this through the FG interface, not through PAR5E (unless you're very, very proficient with that).

If you're going to play your game with voice (TeamSpeak, etc.) then the amount of information you need to put in Fantasy Grounds is drastically reduced - you'll be speaking/reading a lot of the data directly from the Dragonlance books you have. All you really need to have prepared in Fantasy Grounds are maps/images, NPCs and Encounters, Items and item parcels, and tokens you might want to use. Then just run the rest of the game from the books.

Some info on entering data into Fantasy Grounds here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?17108-Steps-to-create-your-PFS-scenario-in-Fantasy-Grounds

Also see Xorn's excellent videos.

You'll have to do the conversion to whichever system you plan on running - but see my post above about using standard NPCs/Monsters from your target system rather than trying to convert the stats from 1E accurately.

jhall6766
April 16th, 2015, 20:07
My apology Trenloe , I was assuming that the Modules would have to be scripted into FG rather then a Cut and paste job... Yes they are all in PDF form...

xKrisx
April 16th, 2015, 21:47
So is there a way to parse 2e stuff into FG, or 1e? That Creature parser is for PF isn't it, I read a bit of it into the link, it doesn't say if you can do other things unless I missed it.

Ferrin
April 16th, 2015, 22:00
Ok, so what I am gathering from all this and correct me if I am wrong, you can start a new campaign in FG. convert what you need using control v and c copy and pasting between the fields manually typing things that have to be worded differently. Then when everything is entered you can export the campaign and it will show up as a module in the library. That is what I gathered from all those big words and talk of parses.

Trenloe
April 16th, 2015, 23:21
Ok, so what I am gathering from all this and correct me if I am wrong, you can start a new campaign in FG. convert what you need using control v and c copy and pasting between the fields manually typing things that have to be worded differently. Then when everything is entered you can export the campaign and it will show up as a module in the library. That is what I gathered from all those big words and talk of parses.
In a nutshell, yes.

Trenloe
April 16th, 2015, 23:25
So is there a way to parse 2e stuff into FG, or 1e? That Creature parser is for PF isn't it, I read a bit of it into the link, it doesn't say if you can do other things unless I missed it.
Both of the main parsers (Pathfinder (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?20522-Pathfinder-Creature-Parser-V2-Beta-Version)and PAR5E (https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?18123-Project-Par5e)) have very specific formatting that is relevant to their respective systems. The parsers are excellent, if you have the data in the right format to start off with. However, if you're stating with 1E or 2E NPCs you would spend too much time trying to get the format right for either of these parsers. You'd be much better off manually typing in the NPC statistics into a campaign of whichever system you want to play. See an example of manually entering a 5E NPC here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-POluSDHAc

Griogre
April 18th, 2015, 19:34
My advice when you do your Dragon Lance conversion is use the 5E monsters from the library for anything generic. Then use a 1E to 5E converter for the draconians, ect. This should really be pretty quick to do if you only put monsters, encounters, and maps in you FG module.

One thing to watch in the conversion - large numbers of low level creatures are lethal in 5E because of bounded accuracy. It's been a *very* long time since I read the Dragon Lance modules but it would not surprise me if there some encounters with large numbers of low level creatures in the later modules. You might find it useful to borrow the 4E minion concept where you have grunt monsters with the same to hit, damage, AC, and saves as a standard monster but only have 1 hp. Thus they go down as soon as they take damage and you don't have to manage their hps.

Zeus
May 3rd, 2015, 23:15
For those monsters that are not available in the 5E MM, here's a handy online tool that will convert a D&D 1E/3E monster to 5E. Once converted simply copy n paste the stat block into a text file and parse with PAR5E. Or enter manually into the 5E campaign using the FG interface.

http://brentnewhall.com/games/1e5e.html

demonsbane
July 28th, 2015, 01:49
Hi,
I just recently invested in the complete DragonLance 1E series... SO now Im looking through the FG rulesets and trying to figure out which Ruleset would be easiest to convert or use for running these games.....

Cheers. Lately I've been also thinking in a FG module of DL1: Dragons of Despair, possibly converted to D&D5e.

Xak Tsaroth rocks.

Overdog
July 30th, 2015, 20:49
Hi,
I just recently invested in the complete DragonLance 1E series... SO now Im looking through the FG rulesets and trying to figure out which Ruleset would be easiest to convert or use for running these games.....

I am not sure if this helps but I have been running A1-A4 (1e Slave Lords series) and I have been mostly (90%) just using the monsters listed in the module. There have been a few times where I thought something was too strong and all I did was look at the CR/EXP guide in the 5E DMG and it has been spot on. I was really surprised how little work I needed to do convert it.

Overdog
July 30th, 2015, 20:51
For those monsters that are not available in the 5E MM, here's a handy online tool that will convert a D&D 1E/3E monster to 5E. Once converted simply copy n paste the stat block into a text file and parse with PAR5E. Or enter manually into the 5E campaign using the FG interface.

http://brentnewhall.com/games/1e5e.html

Thanks Zeus, this is brilliant

leozelig
July 30th, 2015, 23:43
Someone posted recently about working on an update for OSRIC. Haven't heard anything though, so I would also say C&C.