Relevent Info for Open Gaming people

[Nylanfs]

WotC appears to have issued a C&D to somebody using the Basic Rules in software.


https://www.reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/2flymo/the_5e_spellbook_generator_is_no_more_but_i_am/

[Trenloe]

Hardly surprising, knowing WotC's track record with protecting their IP. Thanks for linking the article Nylanfs.

[Nylanfs]

Okay found out some more info after digging. This website allowed people to fill the database that lived on his server with info. And said users filled it with copyrighted info. So it was entirely correct on WotC's part. Although if they would just put out their fricking license already.

[damned]

Okay found out some more info after digging. This website allowed people to fill the database that lived on his server with info. And said users filled it with copyrighted info. So it was entirely correct on WotC's part. Although if they would just put out their fricking license already.

Which license are you referring to? They didnt license 4E electronic material to anyone AFAIK. They have licensed some electronic material to DungeonScape but not to anyone else...

[Nylanfs]

Right, but it would be nice if they would state if they are going to have any kind of open license for 5e.

[damned]

You can always ask... Im sure SmiteWorks and Roll20 and d20Pro and Realmworks and every other person is asking them...

[Sigurd]

Don't hold your breath. It is in their best interest to do what is _in their own best interest_. If the world is really banging on their door for their IP then they will play games.

I think the way forward is to work from the OGL and not expect anything else. If they share that's great, but I think it's enough to spread the gaming ethos and let them have proprietary systems too.

[VenomousFiligree]

Right, but it would be nice if they would state if they are going to have any kind of open license for 5e.

While the details are still in flux, we can say that we plan to announce the details of our [OGL] plans sometime this fall. After that announcement, we plan on launching our program in early 2015. (https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/gazing-crystal-ball)

[Trenloe]

While the details are still in flux, we can say that we plan to announce the details of our [OGL] plans sometime this fall. After that announcement, we plan on launching our program in early 2015. (https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/gazing-crystal-ball)
Putting OGL in that quote could well be very misleading - reading the whole of that article there is nothing that says D&D material will be available to distribute in an OGL like format. Three quotes:


... we want to ensure that the quality of anything D&D fans create is as high as possible. The Dungeon Master's Guide will contain the guidelines for creating many elements of the game, from adventures to monsters. ... For that reason, we don't want to launch anything at least until the Dungeon Master's Guide has been released in November.


Moreover, it's not enough simply to launch anything the day the DMG hits shelves. It'll take time for everyone to absorb the rules and how they all interact. The R&D team can also share what we've learned while working on the game and the traps and challenges to avoid in design.

Therefore, we want to share the timeline we're working with. While the details are still in flux, we can say that we plan to announce the details of our plans sometime this fall. After that announcement, we plan on launching our program in early 2015.


Once the community has some experience with the game, both we and you will be ready to creating the next wave of material for it.

This could really be anything - but what I'm reading here is that this "program" is more to do with supporting/allowing fans to create and share new content - not providing existing WotC content in an OGL format.


Hopefully, that's enough information to make our intentions clear.
No, not really Mike, that's as clear as mud! ;)

[damned]

I cant remember where I read the interview but basically Mike was saying - there will always be people who wont buy the game, who will just pirate the game - so for you we give you the basic edition for free - no need to pirate it. we then have the core books for those who want to expand their game and can afford to add them to their collection. and then he goes on about protecting that IP and pdfs etc not really allowing them to do that.
i think their strategy for 5E is not to have an OGL. if you want free use the Basic Edition - which will be added to as each core book comes out. Basic is not OGL and is not intended to be OGL. It is kinda like a new type of license.

[Morbid-Don]

THE IDEAL ENVIRONMENT

Whomever can secure a partnership or establish a department with one of the major RPG Publishers is gonna be king when software comes out that sort of mimicks the games shown below - in that - replace the game's AI with a GM/DM who has control over the environment and "mobs" = VIOLA - a mature robust game online GM/DMing option!

Space Hulk:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/242570/

Shadowrun Online:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/267750/

All the game assets and mechanics need to be pre-loaded/bundled in - this shouldn't be the realm of the end consumer...

Granted scalability and customization of course is a must!

In a time when Publishers are experiencing challenges ranging from Book Piracy to a drop in the number of gamers who play PNP RPG aka the community.

You can stay in the stone age and eventually when we're all old and gray - we'll be the last generation to play the PNP Games because Publishers/Designers are too guarded about adopting the next step in an eventual market evolution.

Lets progress forward!

Just and idea/opinion, not meaning to upset or attack anyone

Stay Gaming!