RKBrumbelow
March 4th, 2011, 20:41
Don't expect the IRC channel to help you fix what is broken in the cracked version:
1:59 Threndal joined the chat room.
1:59 Threndal: Hey all.
2:00 Threndal: How do I get portraits for my players in 3.5?
2:00 Laz: find a pic you like threndal
2:00 Murgh_Bpurn: Threndal, the players need to put them in their portraits folder
2:00 Laz: crop it down to about 100x100
2:00 Threndal: Oh ok they have their own folder?
2:01 Laz: and dag and drop to your portraits photo in apps data
2:01 Threndal: Ok let me check that out quick...
2:01 Laz: start menu > FG>Apps data>portraits
2:01 Murgh_Bpurn: application data/Fantasy Grounds ii/Portraits
2:04 Threndal: I don't think that I have an appdata folder....
2:04 Ridi: You dio
2:04 Ridi: Everyone does
2:04 Ridi: Threndal
2:04 Ridi: Follow my voice
2:04 Ridi: Go to start
2:05 Laz: what OS you using Threndal?
2:05 Threndal: Windows 7. It is a pain to get to. I know I have one but I can never find it.
2:05 Ridi: I know
2:05 Ridi: Go to run
2:05 Ridi: Type in run
2:05 Ridi: In search and program files
2:05 Ridi: Then inside the run box type
2:06 Ridi: %appdata%
2:06 Madman: next time you find your app data folder create a shortcut to your desktop
2:06 Ridi: So, start, run, %appdata%
2:06 Ikael: no wonder why it's not working
2:06 Threndal: Ah. Thank you very much.
2:07 Threndal: Ok so in my appdata folder in the FG folder I don't have a portraits folder. Just.... campaigns and extensions.
2:08 Laz: create a portraits folder then
2:08 Threndal: Ok.
2:08 Laz: just make sure ya look around real good in there
2:08 Laz: be sure there isn't one hiding
2:09 Laz: does windows 7 hide folders?
2:09 Laz: not sure as i haven't had much experience with win7
2:09 Threndal: Yeah. I am unhiding them all. Ok so in the campaigns, it only shows Tale of Dinor as my campaigns. Then in there I have a portraits folder.
2:09 Ikael: windows 7 have capability to hide folders yes
2:09 Madman: right click>view>details
2:10 Laz: nah that portraits for the demo
2:10 Laz: should have one back where you see all the folders for campaign/ modules/chars/ cache
2:11 Threndal: Ok I will create one and see if it works.
2:11 Laz: after that it is quick
2:11 Laz: yeah name it "portraits"
2:43 Threndal: Ok. So my portrait problem from earlier is still not taken care of. I have an older version of FG is most likely why. And help?
2:43 demonsbane: Threndal,
2:43 Madman: Update it
2:43 Talysian: If you have an older version you will need to update it.
2:44 Threndal: I can put portraits on an older version sstill.
2:44 Threndal: How?
2:44 demonsbane: Threndal, just update the app
2:44 demonsbane: are there any reason for not updating it?
2:44 Threndal: I have a fake copy duh.
2:44 Talysian: There is a button on the corner that says update
2:44 Talysian: Oh...
2:44 Threndal: Lol.
2:45 demonsbane: then go to purchase a valid license man
2:45 demonsbane: this is a niche market,
2:45 Threndal: Not gonna happen I am afraid.
2:45 demonsbane: without money from customers, thsi isn't going to grow
2:45 Talysian: Sadly then you'll need someone with an Ultimate License if you want to play
2:45 Madman: Spend the money!
2:45 Threndal: I already have a campaign of cracked versions running. It is pretty nice actually.
2:46 Talysian: ...
2:46 RKBrumbelow: He can't play with an ultimate license either, not with a cracked copy
2:46 Madman: it's like 4 trips to MCDONALDS for god sakes
2:46 Threndal: Other than the portrait problem.
2:46 demonsbane: this can't afford piracy, because this is a very fragile market
2:46 demonsbane: Threndal after seeing the crakced version,
2:46 Threndal: It wouldn't be fragile if it was advertised! I really do encourage the makers to advertise. Gamers would eat it up.
2:46 demonsbane: you can evaluate better if you want to buy the program
2:46 Talysian: Dude, running a cracked copy is bogus man,
2:46 RKBrumbelow: of course what is fun is the fact that all of this conversation is automatically logged as is his IP Address of 71.38.169.60
2:47 Threndal: So what if you have my IP? Lol.
2:47 Threndal: Not tv commercials. I mean bring the program to events and have it running.
2:47 Talysian: I've seen em on G4 only
2:48 Threndal: It would get people interested which would increase demand so the price could lower.
2:48 Laz: cost money to advertise
2:48 Laz: kind of a catch 22 don't ya think
2:48 Threndal: It takes money to make money.
2:48 Laz: FG isn't a mega corp, it's a small company trying to help the community
2:48 Madman: i think most people are broke these days
2:49 Laz: i not gonna lie i have my share of torrents
2:49 Ridi: They could do; viral marketing if they wanted
2:49 demonsbane: lazarus is right
2:49 RKBrumbelow: well TBCH there are more than a few technically savvy individuals here, and Qwest is pretty good about BSA complaints.
2:49 Laz: but if it's a program you like
2:49 Madman: but 23.00 to do it right
2:49 demonsbane: Threndal what games do you want to run or to play with FG2?
2:49 Laz: should def support em
2:49 Laz: and thanks Murgh... I'll be in there some point to work on character
2:50 Ridi: The DMing Full version is less then two rpgs books anyways
2:50 Threndal: I just think that it would work great for the FG company to request invites to major events. I bet the events would love to have this program there.
2:51 Talysian: Seriously if your looking for a free ride, Maptools is there...
2:51 jthm0138: Well, as someone in the gaming industry, I can tell you none of the Conventions invite anyone.
2:51 Ridi: You guys are like elitist lol
2:51 Ridi: Everyione says that; Don't LIKE IT?! GO MAPTOOLS NEWB
2:51 jthm0138: And Fantasy Grounds is at GenCon EVERY year.
2:51 demonsbane: isn't that Ridi
2:51 Talysian: No, I just have a problem with thieves.
2:52 Threndal: Thieves? Hmm....
2:52 Threndal: So I take it that I am not going to get help with my portrait problem?
2:52 Talysian: I use both
2:53 RKBrumbelow: Nope, try buying the app
2:53 Madman: You need to Update
2:53 Talysian: My thing is this you have two or three people putting their time and effort into this, they probably don't make much of a profit, and running cracked copies is no diffrent the stealing the software off the shelf at the store.
2:53 Threndal: Then get better security on the software?
2:54 Madman: its not bad if you can't update
2:54 demonsbane: Threndal, for helping you,
2:54 Threndal: And no. I don't HAVE to update. Now you are the thief. You are stealing my right to know the truth.
2:54 RidiThrowsThunder: Well, beyond this, I pirate everything and even have cracked a few things; Minecraft being one of my cracks. I legally bought this program, because I respected it; but it takes huge balls to charge 134 and 39,94
2:54 demonsbane: keep in mind that people here is using the updated app
2:54 demonsbane: so it's difficult to help you with an outdated code
2:54 Threndal: EXACTLY. I crack **** all the time and would honestly buy this but it is just too pricey.
2:54 RidiThrowsThunder: Dude, it's less then a 40 of weed and a gram.
2:54 RidiThrowsThunder: Go buy it.
2:55 demonsbane: 40 bucks
2:55 Talysian: Less then that if you only are going to play
2:55 Threndal: And that is another problem I have. I can't GO buy it. I have to order it online. I don't feel comfortable doing that.
2:55 Tillyen joined the chat room.
2:55 demonsbane: do you have paypal, Threndal?
2:55 demonsbane: that is reliable, think about using it for purchasing
2:55 RidiThrowsThunder: Welcome to the new Internet Threndal, better start believing lol
2:56 RKBrumbelow: Stealers gonna steal he will give every excuse he wants.
2:56 Threndal: Ah yes. And with the internet came.... Identity theft is it? Yes that is it.
2:56 jthm0138: Oh I dont know about that.
2:56 RidiThrowsThunder: Hey, this hatred against pirates is just stupid. You guys know me, most of you are friends with me; yes?
2:56 Threndal: There was no identity theft before the internet.
2:56 Talysian: Well people need an Idenitity and it costs to much to get their own.
2:56 Madman: I think that some of you might like FG, or something
2:56 RidiThrowsThunder: Threndal, ID theft has beena round since the 60s/
2:56 Laz: identity theft was before the internet
2:56 Laz: lol
2:56 RidiThrowsThunder: Just it got hyped by the internet
2:56 demonsbane: hatred againts pirates? um
2:56 jthm0138: Back in the days of FG1 I got the program from a free source, played with it for a week, and bought 6 keys.
2:56 Threndal: It was virtually inexistent.
2:56 RidiThrowsThunder: And with people doign stupid things, it became easier.
2:57 Laz: piracy gonna happen.... everyone knows it
2:57 RidiThrowsThunder: No it wasn't Threndal
2:57 RidiThrowsThunder: Go to ANY car dealership that has beena round longer then 20 years; they'll tell you
2:57 Threndal: Yeah it really was. The numbers now compared to then are a much higher percentage.
2:57 Tillyen: <laughs> One only wonders how this conversation came about.
2:57 Threndal: Either way, I will never buy this program.
2:57 Threndal: Bye bye,
2:57 RKBrumbelow: Threndal thinks things are different in the middle of Iowa
2:57 RidiThrowsThunder: Because of people not retreating their ids with respect
2:58 demonsbane: okay Threndal
2:58 Tillyen: You're missing out Threndal
2:58 RidiThrowsThunder: Threndal, grow up kiddy.
2:58 Talysian: Thanks for all the fish!
2:58 demonsbane: but society and market are increasingly being handled through internet
2:58 RidiThrowsThunder: Sometimes, you gotta spend money.
2:58 RKBrumbelow: Good riddance I say
2:58 Threndal: Yeap. Middle of Iowa. Going to Desmoines to eat supper tonight. I am so scared now that you know where I am! **** off.
2:59 Threndal left the chat room.
1:59 Threndal joined the chat room.
1:59 Threndal: Hey all.
2:00 Threndal: How do I get portraits for my players in 3.5?
2:00 Laz: find a pic you like threndal
2:00 Murgh_Bpurn: Threndal, the players need to put them in their portraits folder
2:00 Laz: crop it down to about 100x100
2:00 Threndal: Oh ok they have their own folder?
2:01 Laz: and dag and drop to your portraits photo in apps data
2:01 Threndal: Ok let me check that out quick...
2:01 Laz: start menu > FG>Apps data>portraits
2:01 Murgh_Bpurn: application data/Fantasy Grounds ii/Portraits
2:04 Threndal: I don't think that I have an appdata folder....
2:04 Ridi: You dio
2:04 Ridi: Everyone does
2:04 Ridi: Threndal
2:04 Ridi: Follow my voice
2:04 Ridi: Go to start
2:05 Laz: what OS you using Threndal?
2:05 Threndal: Windows 7. It is a pain to get to. I know I have one but I can never find it.
2:05 Ridi: I know
2:05 Ridi: Go to run
2:05 Ridi: Type in run
2:05 Ridi: In search and program files
2:05 Ridi: Then inside the run box type
2:06 Ridi: %appdata%
2:06 Madman: next time you find your app data folder create a shortcut to your desktop
2:06 Ridi: So, start, run, %appdata%
2:06 Ikael: no wonder why it's not working
2:06 Threndal: Ah. Thank you very much.
2:07 Threndal: Ok so in my appdata folder in the FG folder I don't have a portraits folder. Just.... campaigns and extensions.
2:08 Laz: create a portraits folder then
2:08 Threndal: Ok.
2:08 Laz: just make sure ya look around real good in there
2:08 Laz: be sure there isn't one hiding
2:09 Laz: does windows 7 hide folders?
2:09 Laz: not sure as i haven't had much experience with win7
2:09 Threndal: Yeah. I am unhiding them all. Ok so in the campaigns, it only shows Tale of Dinor as my campaigns. Then in there I have a portraits folder.
2:09 Ikael: windows 7 have capability to hide folders yes
2:09 Madman: right click>view>details
2:10 Laz: nah that portraits for the demo
2:10 Laz: should have one back where you see all the folders for campaign/ modules/chars/ cache
2:11 Threndal: Ok I will create one and see if it works.
2:11 Laz: after that it is quick
2:11 Laz: yeah name it "portraits"
2:43 Threndal: Ok. So my portrait problem from earlier is still not taken care of. I have an older version of FG is most likely why. And help?
2:43 demonsbane: Threndal,
2:43 Madman: Update it
2:43 Talysian: If you have an older version you will need to update it.
2:44 Threndal: I can put portraits on an older version sstill.
2:44 Threndal: How?
2:44 demonsbane: Threndal, just update the app
2:44 demonsbane: are there any reason for not updating it?
2:44 Threndal: I have a fake copy duh.
2:44 Talysian: There is a button on the corner that says update
2:44 Talysian: Oh...
2:44 Threndal: Lol.
2:45 demonsbane: then go to purchase a valid license man
2:45 demonsbane: this is a niche market,
2:45 Threndal: Not gonna happen I am afraid.
2:45 demonsbane: without money from customers, thsi isn't going to grow
2:45 Talysian: Sadly then you'll need someone with an Ultimate License if you want to play
2:45 Madman: Spend the money!
2:45 Threndal: I already have a campaign of cracked versions running. It is pretty nice actually.
2:46 Talysian: ...
2:46 RKBrumbelow: He can't play with an ultimate license either, not with a cracked copy
2:46 Madman: it's like 4 trips to MCDONALDS for god sakes
2:46 Threndal: Other than the portrait problem.
2:46 demonsbane: this can't afford piracy, because this is a very fragile market
2:46 demonsbane: Threndal after seeing the crakced version,
2:46 Threndal: It wouldn't be fragile if it was advertised! I really do encourage the makers to advertise. Gamers would eat it up.
2:46 demonsbane: you can evaluate better if you want to buy the program
2:46 Talysian: Dude, running a cracked copy is bogus man,
2:46 RKBrumbelow: of course what is fun is the fact that all of this conversation is automatically logged as is his IP Address of 71.38.169.60
2:47 Threndal: So what if you have my IP? Lol.
2:47 Threndal: Not tv commercials. I mean bring the program to events and have it running.
2:47 Talysian: I've seen em on G4 only
2:48 Threndal: It would get people interested which would increase demand so the price could lower.
2:48 Laz: cost money to advertise
2:48 Laz: kind of a catch 22 don't ya think
2:48 Threndal: It takes money to make money.
2:48 Laz: FG isn't a mega corp, it's a small company trying to help the community
2:48 Madman: i think most people are broke these days
2:49 Laz: i not gonna lie i have my share of torrents
2:49 Ridi: They could do; viral marketing if they wanted
2:49 demonsbane: lazarus is right
2:49 RKBrumbelow: well TBCH there are more than a few technically savvy individuals here, and Qwest is pretty good about BSA complaints.
2:49 Laz: but if it's a program you like
2:49 Madman: but 23.00 to do it right
2:49 demonsbane: Threndal what games do you want to run or to play with FG2?
2:49 Laz: should def support em
2:49 Laz: and thanks Murgh... I'll be in there some point to work on character
2:50 Ridi: The DMing Full version is less then two rpgs books anyways
2:50 Threndal: I just think that it would work great for the FG company to request invites to major events. I bet the events would love to have this program there.
2:51 Talysian: Seriously if your looking for a free ride, Maptools is there...
2:51 jthm0138: Well, as someone in the gaming industry, I can tell you none of the Conventions invite anyone.
2:51 Ridi: You guys are like elitist lol
2:51 Ridi: Everyione says that; Don't LIKE IT?! GO MAPTOOLS NEWB
2:51 jthm0138: And Fantasy Grounds is at GenCon EVERY year.
2:51 demonsbane: isn't that Ridi
2:51 Talysian: No, I just have a problem with thieves.
2:52 Threndal: Thieves? Hmm....
2:52 Threndal: So I take it that I am not going to get help with my portrait problem?
2:52 Talysian: I use both
2:53 RKBrumbelow: Nope, try buying the app
2:53 Madman: You need to Update
2:53 Talysian: My thing is this you have two or three people putting their time and effort into this, they probably don't make much of a profit, and running cracked copies is no diffrent the stealing the software off the shelf at the store.
2:53 Threndal: Then get better security on the software?
2:54 Madman: its not bad if you can't update
2:54 demonsbane: Threndal, for helping you,
2:54 Threndal: And no. I don't HAVE to update. Now you are the thief. You are stealing my right to know the truth.
2:54 RidiThrowsThunder: Well, beyond this, I pirate everything and even have cracked a few things; Minecraft being one of my cracks. I legally bought this program, because I respected it; but it takes huge balls to charge 134 and 39,94
2:54 demonsbane: keep in mind that people here is using the updated app
2:54 demonsbane: so it's difficult to help you with an outdated code
2:54 Threndal: EXACTLY. I crack **** all the time and would honestly buy this but it is just too pricey.
2:54 RidiThrowsThunder: Dude, it's less then a 40 of weed and a gram.
2:54 RidiThrowsThunder: Go buy it.
2:55 demonsbane: 40 bucks
2:55 Talysian: Less then that if you only are going to play
2:55 Threndal: And that is another problem I have. I can't GO buy it. I have to order it online. I don't feel comfortable doing that.
2:55 Tillyen joined the chat room.
2:55 demonsbane: do you have paypal, Threndal?
2:55 demonsbane: that is reliable, think about using it for purchasing
2:55 RidiThrowsThunder: Welcome to the new Internet Threndal, better start believing lol
2:56 RKBrumbelow: Stealers gonna steal he will give every excuse he wants.
2:56 Threndal: Ah yes. And with the internet came.... Identity theft is it? Yes that is it.
2:56 jthm0138: Oh I dont know about that.
2:56 RidiThrowsThunder: Hey, this hatred against pirates is just stupid. You guys know me, most of you are friends with me; yes?
2:56 Threndal: There was no identity theft before the internet.
2:56 Talysian: Well people need an Idenitity and it costs to much to get their own.
2:56 Madman: I think that some of you might like FG, or something
2:56 RidiThrowsThunder: Threndal, ID theft has beena round since the 60s/
2:56 Laz: identity theft was before the internet
2:56 Laz: lol
2:56 RidiThrowsThunder: Just it got hyped by the internet
2:56 demonsbane: hatred againts pirates? um
2:56 jthm0138: Back in the days of FG1 I got the program from a free source, played with it for a week, and bought 6 keys.
2:56 Threndal: It was virtually inexistent.
2:56 RidiThrowsThunder: And with people doign stupid things, it became easier.
2:57 Laz: piracy gonna happen.... everyone knows it
2:57 RidiThrowsThunder: No it wasn't Threndal
2:57 RidiThrowsThunder: Go to ANY car dealership that has beena round longer then 20 years; they'll tell you
2:57 Threndal: Yeah it really was. The numbers now compared to then are a much higher percentage.
2:57 Tillyen: <laughs> One only wonders how this conversation came about.
2:57 Threndal: Either way, I will never buy this program.
2:57 Threndal: Bye bye,
2:57 RKBrumbelow: Threndal thinks things are different in the middle of Iowa
2:57 RidiThrowsThunder: Because of people not retreating their ids with respect
2:58 demonsbane: okay Threndal
2:58 Tillyen: You're missing out Threndal
2:58 RidiThrowsThunder: Threndal, grow up kiddy.
2:58 Talysian: Thanks for all the fish!
2:58 demonsbane: but society and market are increasingly being handled through internet
2:58 RidiThrowsThunder: Sometimes, you gotta spend money.
2:58 RKBrumbelow: Good riddance I say
2:58 Threndal: Yeap. Middle of Iowa. Going to Desmoines to eat supper tonight. I am so scared now that you know where I am! **** off.
2:59 Threndal left the chat room.