OSRIC Ruleset

[ZippeeJerred]

Hi,
I've been having some weird AC and MV results cropping up - ran through the following:

Human FTR – with DEX bonus -1 to AC
Running OSRIC and AD&D O&HR extension, nothing else

With no armour or shield AC 9, MV 12 = all good
a) Drag and drop shield, medium +1 and AC changes to -1 (it should be 7), MV remains 12
b) Unequip shield +1 (change to carry), drag and drop scale mail, AC changes to 5 (correct) and MV to 9 (it should be 6)
c) Re-equip shield +1 (change to worn), AC becomes 4 (it should be 3) and MV remains 9 (it should be 6)

delete scale and shield – AC 9, MV 12 (all good)

a) drag and drop scale mail, AC changes to 5 (correct) and MV to 9 (it should be 6)
b) drag and drop shield, medium +1 whilst unidentified AC drops to 4, MV remains 9 – I’d expect the AC to drop to 3 but I’m not sure as its unidentified.
c) Identify shield on character sheet, AC remains 4, MV remains 9 – both incorrect
d) Unequip shield +1 (change to carry), AC 5 (correct) and MV 9 (incorrect)
e) Re -equip shield +1 (change to worn), AC 4 (incorrect) and MV 9 (incorrect)
f) Unequip scale mail, leaving shield +1 equipped and AC drops to -1, MV to 9 – both incorrect

Left character with shield and scale equipped (AC 4, MV 9) exited and removed AD&D O&HR Extension
Character remained AC 4, MV 9 (should be AC 3, MV 6) on relaunch.
Deleted both items and repeated all steps above with identical results.

I did this experiment both before and after the latest red update moving the system from 4.4.? to 4.5.2

All items came direct from the OSRIC item list.

[Doomsword]

Hi,
I've been having some weird AC and MV results cropping up - ran through the following:

Human FTR – with DEX bonus -1 to AC
Running OSRIC and AD&D O&HR extension, nothing else

With no armour or shield AC 9, MV 12 = all good
a) Drag and drop shield, medium +1 and AC changes to -1 (it should be 7), MV remains 12
b) Unequip shield +1 (change to carry), drag and drop scale mail, AC changes to 5 (correct) and MV to 9 (it should be 6)
c) Re-equip shield +1 (change to worn), AC becomes 4 (it should be 3) and MV remains 9 (it should be 6)

delete scale and shield – AC 9, MV 12 (all good)

a) drag and drop scale mail, AC changes to 5 (correct) and MV to 9 (it should be 6)
b) drag and drop shield, medium +1 whilst unidentified AC drops to 4, MV remains 9 – I’d expect the AC to drop to 3 but I’m not sure as its unidentified.
c) Identify shield on character sheet, AC remains 4, MV remains 9 – both incorrect
d) Unequip shield +1 (change to carry), AC 5 (correct) and MV 9 (incorrect)
e) Re -equip shield +1 (change to worn), AC 4 (incorrect) and MV 9 (incorrect)
f) Unequip scale mail, leaving shield +1 equipped and AC drops to -1, MV to 9 – both incorrect

Left character with shield and scale equipped (AC 4, MV 9) exited and removed AD&D O&HR Extension
Character remained AC 4, MV 9 (should be AC 3, MV 6) on relaunch.
Deleted both items and repeated all steps above with identical results.

I did this experiment both before and after the latest red update moving the system from 4.4.? to 4.5.2

All items came direct from the OSRIC item list.

Thanks for the report and thorough testing. I'll run through your scenarios (and any others I think of) and see what's going on.

[Doomsword]

New version available that fixes the above issues and adds maximum movement rate by armor type. The weird issue with magic shields was that they have a "subtype" of "magic" instead of "shield" in the OSRIC ref module.

[ZippeeJerred]

New version available that fixes the above issues and adds maximum movement rate by armor type. The weird issue with magic shields was that they have a "subtype" of "magic" instead of "shield" in the OSRIC ref module.

Many thanks for the quick response and update, All looks good on a quick review.

[Doomsword]

Many thanks for the quick response and update, All looks good on a quick review.

Great. Thanks for testing it out.

[Doomsword]

New version available

- fixes zombie initiative, as well as any creatures that have an "Always Last" special action, whether you get them from OSRIC or 2E modules. Initiative is set to 8 for these creatures, 2 points higher than the max value of the d6. Depending upon combat circumstances, you may see chat values much higher than this but they'll be reflected properly in the combat tracker. I'll probably work on that at some point but I consider it a minor, cosmetic-only issue that may be time-consuming. There are other things I'd like to change about the ruleset, first.

[ZippeeJerred]

Hi,

I'm noticing that dwarf/gnome/halfling movement for encumbrance is rated as 90/70/50/30, I'm aware of this variant (but I've never seen it at a table FWIW) but the BTB OSRIC version is 90/60/30/30 as per p123:

"Note that the table above assumes that the character in question has a base 120 ft move. If the character is of small race (such as a dwarf, gnome or halfling), a base move of 90 ft may apply (deduct 30 ft from all movement rates, with a minimum of 30 ft; but do NOT change the effect of encumbrance on surprise/ initiative)."

TBH I always played 90/60/30/10 so I doubt there is any real consensus on this and 1ed is ruthlessly silent on the matter, referring us to the MM where dwarves are listed as 60 in armour but some insist its the flat rate (guess that argument won for 2e LOL)

I can live with the 90/70/50/30 which might be 1ed by intent (who knows) but it isn't BTB OSRIC. Is it possible to have them as togglable options?