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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigon View Post
    But that said, if the September product IS indeed waterdeep id be concerned that if we put material together, it would be incorrect. Its been what... 100ish DR years since the last documented anything we have of waterdeep??
    First, I don't have time to do any actual work on this, but I will encourage you all to. Since I'm doing Undermountain in FG, having a companion Waterdeep would be huge.

    Yes there would probably be some conflicts. But, experience shows that an official product will probably only detail 2-3 dozen locations in the city. They might detail 2-3 noble families, and the map might very well change. But if your FG product focuses on locations and not politics and ruling family info, I don't think you would have much conflict (except for a possible map).

    That's the approach I'm taking with UM. I tried reaching out to WotC through several channels, but never got any response or willingness to discuss. Since these products have already been drafted long ago, it would have been easy to collaborate, but since that's not an option, I've just decided to do UM more completely than WotC will. So, My UM will have conflicts with WotC's, but imo that's not too important, and for those that want something complete, my product will be the only option.

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    i think the first task at hand is to agree on a system/template/format/method of building this out.

    I really like the idea of using the DOE locations extension, as well as the Organizations extension cause... lord knows Waterdeep has plenty of those.

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    We should probably set up a Discord server (or a channel on one of the existing servers) that is specifically dedicated to this project and people wishing to contribute can join in there.

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    Jrh18, did this die? I never heard back

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    Sorry yes this project did kind of die in my mind (i got really addicted to Fortnite lately). When I talked to the DMs Guild facebook group they recommended C for a Waterdeep project. They recommended creating a lot of separate products that would allow DMs to pick and choose what they want to use. They also recommended one overarching framework document that would link everything together.

    WoTC has already detailed out the names of hundreds of locations in Waterdeep in the 3E Waterdeep setting book as well as a lot of information about the various families in a blog type post. That said I think LordEntrails is right the Dragon Heist book is going to be an adventure that focuses on an adventure and then details parts of Waterdeep as needed.

    My question is actually for Fantasy Grounds. I would assume that the FG module for Dragon Heist will have a pinned map of all the locations in Waterdeep that are part of the Dragon heist with links to story pages about the locations and ties to the adventure. I also think that they will have a map of Waterdeep as part of the Dragon heist. I think that makes it somewhat difficult to create a module that has all Waterdeep locations without being in conflict with FG's official module. Maybe someone from Fantasy Grounds could comment on this. None of the FG materials have ever been released for use in the creation of DMs Guild content that I know of.

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    I made a discord server https://discord.gg/eP7RaZe if people want to join and chat about this.

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    One last comment is that I think option C would not require you to flip between modules it would just organize content within the modules. Unless the concern is the map and that would require flipping between modules, but I don't think that would be a problem if the map lives in the Waterdeep framework module that is focused on an overview of everything waterdeep and the modules go into a deeper dive.

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    I just wanted to mention here that I was able to finish the primer on Waterdeep and put it up on the DMS guild. If you are interested https://www.dmsguild.com/product/248...terdeep-Primer.

    There is also a Nobility of Waterdeep product up https://www.dmsguild.com/product/249...y-of-Waterdeep. I am now working on a Guilds product and have plans for a military one as well. Once those are done I was going to contact the various authors of Waterdeep products and get permission to make a Fantasy Grounds module that brings the products all together. If anyone else has projects they are working on mention it here or in the discord chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrh18 View Post

    Let me know if there are areas of the city you would like expanded on. My initial focus will be on the noble families. I published an excel version of the old web enhancement for the nobles of Waterdeep pdf (https://www.dmsguild.com/product/238...f&test_epoch=0). I also expanded it a little to show what type of lifestyle each family is currently funded for. I use this to help determine which families feud with which other families, and which may have fallen from grace or risen.
    I just downloaded your Nobility of Waterdeep Spreadsheet. This would be useful for importing into Realm Works.
    Does this go with your Nobility of Waterdeep PDF?
    Do you know of any other Waterdeep products that have the data in spreadsheets?

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    The Nobility of Waterdeep is not my product, someone else got it done before I could . The Excel file should work with the Mobility of Waterdeep PDF as well though. I have looked through it and both of use used the same data to create the products.

    I don't know of anymoreproducts that have spreadsheet data. I decided last night that I should make a spreadsheet for the guilds in Waterdeep, and when I get that product done I will release it with that. I am working right now on creating illustrations for all of the liveries for the guilds.

    DMs Guild Products: Waterdeep primer, Waterdeep Fantasy Grounds Module
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